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I would never trust a safety enough to break a window with the muzzle of my rifle. Soooooo many ways for that to go wrong. What a fucking moron. Those poor women.
You say this like ICE is worried if they murder people.
No I say this as an outraged and confused witness to an abduction of two innocent women. I say this as a disenfranchised voter who is sick and tired of a complicit media using passive language about a Trump loving immigrant from the UK who just shot their daughter. I say this as a firearms owner who sadly cannot advocate for any new gun laws during the current constitutional congress in this country for fear of a Nazi like gun grab. I say this as a son, brother, father and citizen that my rights and the rights of all people in the United States are currently under threat, watching two innocent women be terrorized by Brownshirted thugs backed by a federal office. I say this as a confused resident of a country that continues to refuse to stand up for itself, held captive by controlled opposition called a Democratic party. I say this as a worker who is trying to organize a national strike, as a maker shipping whistles and radios and old mini PCs across this country so that neighborhoods can build rapid response teams to combat this shit.
It appears they are using the barrel of the rifle to break the window, which is even sillier than the other thing.
Barrel/muzzle device = steel, buttstock is usually plastic nowadays, not the dumbest thing I've seen these goons do. Muzzle strikes are a thing in long arm combatives.
Probably should have used an actual tool for it, though. And maybe not gangster-gripping the rifle to get a downward trajectory of the round for safety (I am being really, really generous here).
Or perhaps they could realize that honking your horn is free speech and have some sense of perspective - there should not have been an assault rifle
More it seems unsafe than damaging to the rifle, but I guess they don't care about that anyway?
Very fucking unsafe to drive the muzzle of your rifle into any rigid object. Muzzle strikes are a thing. However you target the soft tissue of an assailant that has gotten within grabbing distance of your weapon and you do not want to kill them.
What this asshole did is dangerous on many fronts. They're using what appears to be their suppressor, which is atleast an 8" lever, that's likely screwed into an adapter that's then screwed onto the barrel. It's as much of a rube goldberg setup as it sounds. However under normal wear and tear still usually robust. It's designed to be used in tension to suppress the muzzle flash and report of a fired round by slowing and cooling the resulting gasses.
What it's not designed to be used as, is a FUCKING HAMMER, which puts it in compression. This asshole is striking a hard surface, with a steel blunt tube, comprised of a very complicated inner geometry. Not only that but he's striking at an angle levering the wide and rigid tube against a narrow coupler. I see a baffle strike and a ruined suppressor in his future. Possibly a ruined barrel crown depending on how much he just fucking bent that shit.
Now, to the biomechanics of what is happening. He had his hand on the pistol grip and his support hand on the foregrip. There's no fucking leverage there he can meaningfully exert. There's a reason spears don't have pistol grips. So the hand around the pistol grip is going to try to get the most purchase on the weapon. Which means it'll be riding up to the upper of the weapon and on the way there it could turn the weapon safety. Also, around that pistol grip is the trigger.
The driver of that car is being terrorized, by a moron, who very easily could've had a negligent discharge and shot her.
Fucking nightmare fuel all around. Those poor women. I hope they get justice because I would've gone to jail or died if it were me recording.
This is an excellent commentary. Thanks!
Some muzzle devices are explicitly designed to shatter glass alongside normal function - although they're commonly found on breaching shotguns.
Yes but what about rule #4 of gun safety: Never point your gun at anything you don’t want a bullet hole in?
Was he ready to shoot them?
They're always ready to shoot us the exact second they think they can get away with it.
There are specific window-breaker muzzle attachments for this purpose. It's not what I'd use either if something without a gun mounted behind it was available though. Some eBay warrior wanted to try out their high-speed tacticool gear and got their golden opportunity.
You are supposed to use your muzzle if you need to use your gun as a melee weapon. That's why bayonets exist.
No. You buttstrike someone if you have no bayonet. Striking someone with the barrel is dumb because youre at least gonna fuck up your zero and you might bend the barrel which could cause a rapid unscheduled disassembly of your rifle when you fire it.
Military and police training literally say that if you need to melee with your gun you use a muzzle strike - it's usually reserved for someone who's actively trying to grab your gun by the barrel and you don't actually feel like using lethal force. Using a muzzle strike against a fleshy target won't do anything to the gun's zero or ability to fire, you don't do it on a hard surface like glass. Hitting someone with your stock might actually break the gun if the recoil spring goes through it.
I remember my bayonet class from my time in the army. We were never taught any such thing. We were actively discouraged from hitting things with our muzzle.
What is your experience with rifle combat? Because mine is practical application in iraq.
Edit: lol love the block because you got called out. Next time don't spout off stuff you don't know about. And maybe don't accuse people of being war criminals just because you're mad about being called out for being wrong.
Against women and children, I suppose?
Either way, it's been a thing for a while now. Buttstriking is not something you do with a long gun.
I'm slightly surprised insurance companies aren't more involved fighting ice. Capitalists usually hate blowing money on stupid shit
This is smaller than peanuts to them. I wonder if it's even covered.
The victim's insurance would gladly say that she is at fault for making the police do this, and the police would back her up. On paper to them, it would be no different than if she had gone on a high speed chase and the cops had to ram her to get her to stop. They will not be paying a dime.
Any competent lawyer would demolish that position.
Extremely unlikely. Insurance likely has blanket prohibitions on coverage caused by interactions with police. Fault isn't relevant.
im sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the law and rights you once knew are no longer at play today
... in a fair court...
To be successful, the govt would have to investigate themselves and find wrongdoing. In which case, it wouldn't be the victim's insurance paying out, it would be the taxpayer.
Even if she's found completely innocent of any wrongdoing, if the govt says the officers did as they were trained, then she's probably on her own for repairs.
Seeking capitalist solutions for social problems is how we got here in the first place. I'm surprised there aren't more strikes across the country.
Fuck ICE
Little men, big guns
Tiny little heads