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The NDP is the most progressive thing we have with real coverage, and the Liberals are, at this point, just conservatives that don’t openly hate minorities.

What the hell are you talking about?

The fuck are you talking about? They formed a coalition so they could represent their constituents and force the Liberal party to be at least somewhat useful. That’s what governments should be and it’s why minority governments are such a good thing. If you hate the Liberals so much that you don’t want the NDP near them then what the hell is your real position trying to claim we shouldn’t be voting for the NDP and then, I imagine, should be voting for the Liberals?

And then they get in trouble for working with the Liberals and they get in trouble for not being a homogenous blob, too? You don’t have a real stance, your brain is fucking mush, and nothing you’re saying is backed by any kind of true critical thought. Embarrassing.

That’s not the burn you think it is, not even fucking close. Also fucking hilarious that you think Carney is a progressive.

And how is the NDP supposed be built if we keep not voting for them? Are they supposed to just do a bunch of work for free for a few decades? They basically already have, and they simply got loss of official party status as a reward for that.

The Liberals aren’t just boring, they’re actively harmful. I don’t want Poilievre anywhere near power either but I’m not so naive as to believe that this battle is over, or even progressing, just because we sacrificed our values again. They’ve become very close to the conservatives we were all supposed to be afraid of back in 2021, and their trajectory is that they’re getting worse, not better. If the Liberal voters are so wise, should they not be acutely aware of this fact?

You even admit that coalitions work and, I imagine, understand that the NDP used their leverage to get Canadians things that we needed when the Liberals weren’t going to on their own. They fight for us even when they aren’t in full control. How are they supposed to form a coalition without having any seats?

It’s always “now is not the time” with you lot. It’s cowardly and weak. You’re right that it’s going to take time, so we better start now if we want to see any change in the future. Yes, it will suck for a moment, but do you really believe that the solution is to make endless excuses every single election cycle?

What’d they do to nuke themselves? The only complaints are “they don’t do anything” even they did a lot even just as the other member of a coalition government during the Liberal’s last run, and people also say they aren’t charismatic enough but I never once got the feeling that Trudeau was particulary charismatic and we just elected a boring banker who is even more boring now. Why the double standard all the time? Why do they need to be 100% perfect just to still get thrown aside but the Liberals get to be all kinda of fucked and we still consider them some kind of “default” party?

Something tells me fighter planes don’t get updates from anything other than a computer plugged directly into them.

If the other options don’t exist then how are the private daycares struggling to fill the classrooms? People need their kids taken care of, I doubt anyone is prematurely taking their kids out of private daycare.

Conservatives are dumb as hell, they probably don’t even realize that they’re getting the same ideology they used to vote for just under a different name.

If I could magic one seemingly small thing into the world it would be to make everyone think just a tiny bit more about what they were doing. It would be to make them vote honestly and in alignment with their ideology and not based on their past choices or party branding.

Why? Was it all the stuff they got done when the only power they had was a coalition government? What was it? And Carney getting stuff done is better even though the stuff being done is bad? What about the Liberals and their constant lying, scheming, and persistent disdain for the working class make them a better choice?

Are for real? You cannot honestly be that stupid, can you?

Ya’ll need to pay attention, then. They’re stripping back environmental protections “for the economy” and selling our shit to private companies, laying people off in a time when it’s already incredibly difficult to get jobs, and tried to help Air Canada by butting into the flight attendant strike to make it illegal and we’re all lucky that it didn’t work. “Elbows up” lost steam immediately and then we just fell in with China instead. So much of the good they did the last time was the NDP making them do it while Canadians bitched about the NDP “not doing anything”. They’re not “increasingly conservative” they are just conservatives and they are less and less afraid of showing it each cycle.

I’m so beyond over lazy, relativistic politics. Who the hell cares if they’re better than worst from other countries when we literally have a better party right here?

Funny how many Conservatives seem happy enough to go the party that is supposedly full of “woke leftists”. Almost as if the Liberals are actually conservatives, have been for a while, and too many of us are too stupid to have seen it.

Glad we nuked the NDP again for this!

Some people are broken. They’re the narcissists and psychopaths and people who refuse to address their trauma(having trauma is fine, doing nothing about it and making it everyone else’s problem is less so) who we keep handing power to for some fucking reason.