if the doj won't bring this asshole to justice, i really hope someone else will.
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is it because MAGAT cant hire competantent, lawyers, because they would be poison to thier law firms. so places like texas are making policies to becoming a lawyer more lax.
Are these the officials of the same doj that has been blocking release of the epstein files?
And they'll be replaced by sycophants and suck-ups, and it will get even worse.
The good news is that many of these attorneys have formed boutique law firms in DC, each one focusing on different court challenges to MAGA policies, and they're succeeding.
So every time they lose knowledgeable, experienced people, we gain strength. Worse for them, they weaken by both the loss, and the increase in their virtuosic incompetence.
"Top DOJ officials caved to the slightest pressure, derelicted their duties and handed over their power to the fascist regime. America's dictator will soon appoint more loyalists to their positions."
Yep. I've gotten skewered online for pointing out how these protest resignations do nothing but serves the fascists interests, by opening up the slot to be filled by a loyal SS member.
It is a tradeoff. If they stay where they are, they can slow things down. If they leave and join the good guys, they can help them directly.
Both ways are valuable, but not all people can handle being an infiltrator.
You're not wrong.
But I've also seen people saying that the government is fascist /Nazi. If you're working for the government (especially somewhere like the DOJ) then that's akin to saying you support the government.
So it's a hard decision to make either way
Everyone is so concerned with the statement they're making and the optics around it.
This is their career. They chose to work in civil rights. They have to go there every day. They have to look at themselves in the mirror at night.
Having personal standards and ethics is a thing to be celebrated, or it used to be. "How dare these people make a personal and professional choice they have to live with that offends my sense of strategy" is not exactly a great perspective.
For sure. And everyone has a different line in the sand.
I'm not trying to say one option is good or bad, because there are merits in both arguments. It's easy to say you'd do this or that when you're spectating. But it's much harder when you're actually doing it.
And for me personally, I think they made the right call. But I'm just a guy sitting at home (who doesn't even live in the states) so who am I to judge them?
By resigning they're just making things easier for them. Cowards.
I can't remember the exact quote but it's something along the lines of the path to hell is lined with people who stayed and tried to do a good thing in a bad world.
Sometimes all you can do is quit.
By resigning, they have helped to point out the fault of the regime. It's a principled stand. If they thought they could do better work by staying there I'm sure they would. If they are stifled, holding the position is not a good use of them as a resource against fascism. They will now work elsewhere and continue to have morals. Hopefully, in direct opposition to these totalitarian sycophants.
Without complaining and lashing out, is there a benefit from them resigning?
Can't be held liable during the next set of Nuremberg trials?
Well, that's good for them, but what about the American people?
Tbf its past time for The People to be in the streets on a general strike. The People need to take responsibility and act.
These individuals held out a good while, not sure how much evil they had to do personally on a daily basis.
To be fair, the question asked was only, is there a benefit and i did answer that. So, don't go moving the goal posts!
On a serious note, to answer your question briefly as one of those "American people": i do sense a change in the air. I don't think it's a general strike or civil war, but there's definitely people paying attention who hadn't otherwise before. And that engagement? They are pissed.
The long answer is this: Everyone just watched a government agent kill a white mother and then lie about what happened. They see the news coverage spreading that lie. Everyone knows the poem, "First They Came" by Martin Niemöller and with this, they realized we are already 4 lines into it. Racist fucks can't just hand wave this away as a statistic anymore.
And it's not like shit is getting any better for us, it's not like prices are going down! Between the Epstein list shit, Venezuela and Greenland, inflation, shrinkflation, and products being recalled for listeria or lead/metal/glass shavings, now we have masked fat asses terrorizing/killing us then opening lying about it?! And then calling US the terrorists? Nah. That's not even mentioning the absolutely bat shit levels of corruption happening that's practically being admitted to right in the open.
So some good news about us. Something i noticed start in 2020 with covid lock downs was that our culture started to shift towards "homesteading" or trying to make everything yourself, because you knew the quality is better than store bought, and in the majority of cases, cheaper. But recently, people have started to go full in, and i think this is the angle where a general strike can foment from!
People DO NOT want corporate slop anymore. There's a growing want for local businesses, and they will start to come back offering better, locally made items. Sure it'll be a bit more expensive, but the prices for those lower quality goods are going up too.
This is hopefully going to reduce corporate influence and bring communities closer together, since not every individual can make everything they'll ever need. With stronger communities, this "fear of the other" dissipates. I've started to see it in my neighborhood. As word spreads, more people start to see what is happening. I've already been to city and town halls discussing AI data centers and the places are FUCKING PACKED, to the point they move it to larger areas and it's still over flowing out into the halls and parking lots.
We were already banding together, but every one of their fuck ups, brings us even closer together. Just look at those bad asses in PA; the Black Panthers, resurfacing and showing up for their community. More will come.
All resigning does is let them easily replace you with someone that agrees with them.
If you think you need to resign, stay and make them go thru the hassle of firing you. Drag it out, file complaints, get the union.
Even if it's the same result a year later, that's a year without one more maga bootlicker doing your job.
Agreed. It's hard and I get it from a mental health perspective, but the best way to fight them is to make it hard, be annoying, be inconvenient, not just walking away. That's how they win. That's how they stack the department with sycophants and yes-men.
If you don't resign when your job demands you be complicit, at some point you are just following orders.
If you can say “I resign” you can say “this is illegal and I’m not complying”.
Yeah that's what they did. And if they stayed there you'd still be calling them fascists. There's nothing they can actually do, it's resign or get fired anyway.
Also, get on the soapbox. Even if you can't apply social pressure, you can at least inform the people.
Yes, quit. THAT'LL show em.
Cowards.
- Try to fight the fire; or
- Leave the area to a safe distance
Here, the safe distance may be Australia.
I like how you wanted them to stay, with its strong "some of you may die, and that's a price I'm willing to pay" vibes.
Resign? How does that help?
"There's a lot of injustice happening here, so let me step aside to allow for more injustice."
I see your point but I would counter with the fact that these are probably all lawyers who know the ins and outs of our justice system better than most people and should they join the ACLU or other organizations that are going to be suing the government over all of the civil rights abuses that they've been perpetrating these people will be invaluable.
Course that's all predicated on our court system not being corrupted before we can put through a regime change in this year's midterm elections. Trump is trying hard to shove in as many friendly judges as he can right now.
The road to facism, paved by resignation.
We are just laying down and taking it
But, if they carried on working wouldn't that make them Nazis?
They have to refuse illegal requests. Refuse to do immoral stuff. They may be fired, but they make a paper trail of why they're being fired and immediately sue.
It's about standing up to the crap and obstructing it. Resigning does nothing.
The road to fascism is paved with resignations.
So they steal the scene evidence, refuse access to it by MN officers, and then refuse to do anything with it because the outcome was a forgone conclusion minutes after it happened when i-barbie, donnie, and vladimir futon all declared Renee a terrorist.
Nothing to see here, totally normal day in a fascist state...
also helping the "murderer" move out of his home secretely, so he doesnt get doxxed elsewhere.