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Resign? How does that help?
"There's a lot of injustice happening here, so let me step aside to allow for more injustice."
I see your point but I would counter with the fact that these are probably all lawyers who know the ins and outs of our justice system better than most people and should they join the ACLU or other organizations that are going to be suing the government over all of the civil rights abuses that they've been perpetrating these people will be invaluable.
Course that's all predicated on our court system not being corrupted before we can put through a regime change in this year's midterm elections. Trump is trying hard to shove in as many friendly judges as he can right now.
It's incredible how many people still think that this will be a thing.
If Trump is actually able to stop or delay elections this year we have bigger problems.
I don't think you grasp just what it would take to actually stop elections.
I'd argue that you already DO have bigger problems, you just haven't come to terms with it yet.
Doesn't really matter what it would take. His plan is (and always has been) that if anything doesn't go his way, he takes it to the supreme court who he handpicked and has in his pocket. So either:
Trump just gets bolder every time people say "oh we'll get out of this at the midterms." He's laughing at America.
It's not that we haven't come to terms with it, it's just that any resistance will need to be legitimized by outside forces to be recognized. If you look at the long history of tyrannical governments being overthrown, American and European figureheads always talk about whether or not the local resistance groups are legitimate in their concerns or not, which ultimately determines how much outside help is given.
Look at Gaza, there's a resistance force over there that has been branded as a terrorist organization (in certain cases, deservingly) which they now also have to fight a PR campaign online.
Going full blown delegitimizes any movement, and can justify further fascist ratcheting vs them just "claiming" violence happened against them, which EVERYONE can fully see is not happening. Sure they will claim it regardless but that loses them potential allies and any high ground.
We still have a court system. We still have elections. And both of those take time.
For anyone talking about where the lines are, that's them. Functioning legitimate courts, and functioning legitimate elections.
Until then, we are out there demonstrating peacefully, building up our communities, and giving them the rope to Nuremberg themselves with.
He doesn't have to stop them, he just needs to make brown people afraid to show up
This administration is already overreaching, they know Trump is about to die any moment and they're trying to do way too much, too fast, and have a genuine belief that JD fucking Vance will still be able to hold the party and Trump's base together. They are making wild mistakes because they know they have a chance of getting smashed in midterms.
Yes, midterms still have a very good chance of happening. There's also a good chance they will try some bullshit to delay them or interfere, but the US is a very, VERY big place and our elections are very simple to keep secure, and they haven't had enough time and power to really sabotage the entire thing. Yet.
Also, what else can we do? Have our own private midterms and the right isn't allowed to touch it? We don't really have a choice here but expect the system will be resilient enough that we can force political change. We don't have alternatives yet.
edit: get mad, and then focus that anger somewhere productive. There is not going to be a coup, there is not going to be a general strike. Despite what the algorithm is feeding you, people are still broadly comfortable. Marches and protests are good, let's keep doing that, but by already thinking you're not going to have a vote, voice or representation in the midterms is resigning to defeat and fantasy and some secret desire to see the world burn.
Mussolini was not dragged out of the capital by a band of plucky rebels with broad support, nor forced out by a general strike, he was handed over by his own party and the growing political pressure due to Mussolini's poor management of the country. The king of Italy himself placed Mussolini under arrest and handed him over to the opposition. As much as we feel discouraged and disillusioned, we still need politics. We're not getting an anarchist utopia out of this mess. You still need to get off your ass and vote and not resent anything that drags you away from this addicting slop.
The next idiot here who says voting is useless gets blocked, I don't engage with children.
What a defeatist attitude.
Protest, strike, boycott, obstruct, organize, disrupt.
Those are all things you can do and they're all proven to be successful around the world. Stop putting all your hopes in a process they've already broken.
No, defeatist attitude is "there will be no midterms, lets instead put all our eggs in the basket that isn't doing much."
I didn't say anything about not protesting and marching, only that there will probably still be midterms, the fact that you see that "defeatist" just tells me you don't want change via politics and are fantasizing that the protests are going to turn into a coup. There will not be a coup.
It's infuriating. People are literally laying down and taking it up the ass right now while saying, "it's okay, it'll be fixed a year from now"
"it's ok, somebody else will fix my problems for me!"
How is saying that we "won't have midterms" anything but lying down and taking it up the ass in advance? You've already given up and it's only January.
I wish you doomers would go back to reddit.
I say it because we need to be taking action today assuming midterms aren't happening. It isn't doomer, fuck off with that bullshit.
Almost certainly it will be a thing but it will be more difficult than past midterms. In the meantime we got to keep fighting and doing everything we can to tank Trump's popularity (things such as talking to people who don't follow politics much) because the less popular Trump is and the less support the more likely people will refuse the risk of rigging/stopping the election.
Please explain to me how the federal government can cancel elections that are run by the states.
I feel like suing the government under this administration does not do anything because the current federal government rules with an iron fist. they have proven time and time and time again they do not care what laws or the constitution say.
In a sane world where law is respected, yes, I agree with everything you are saying. however, we live in an age where logic and the rule of law do not prevail. i feel their radical actions will catch up to them eventually, but at what cost? what if they do something that ends my life? I won't be able to enjoy when justice is eventually served...
currently, if someone is in a position of power and they have integrity, they should be holding onto that position for dear life while they weather this storm. the alternative leaves corruption to fill these vacant jobs with someone who has no integrity, in my opinion.
Doesn't do anything? Have you been ignoring the news?
Know what, no here.
https://www.justsecurity.org/107087/tracker-litigation-legal-challenges-trump-administration/
Looks like litigation is doing something.
Or if you want a more reputable source:
https://apnews.com/projects/trump-executive-order-lawsuit-tracker/
to clarify my statement: in my opinion, the wheels of justice are turning too slowly for a president that wakes up, waves a wand, and gets what he wants. his actions have real consequences for real Americans.
just last week, 10 billion dollars for child care was halted for states that are not republican. the effects malnourished children have every day they go hungry may last a lifetime.... and im just supposed to wait for the litigation you posted to get things sorted out? unacceptable.
I have no doubt the law is accurately tracking and will get things done, but the wait doesnt work for people that depend on social services
Well, yes. I agree on that. But it's what we have. And it's exactly why they move fast and break things.
They're hoping to demoralize the American public to get further power.
I agree it is what we have as well, but there has got to be a better faster way to clean this mess up that isn't violent.
demoralization is working too, and its the only thing I have 100% control of, but I just cant give in.
im sure everyone's social circle thats reading this has at least one person they know who only works to divide minds instead of unite them, and its absolutely draining.
OK im off my soapbox for awhile, thanks for the conversation... I feel better lol
You're proving the point that the courts work: just after DHHS blocked TANF funds to five Democratic states, a judge blocked it with a TRO:
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/09/us/politics/trump-child-care-funding-freeze.html
Outside SCOTUS the courts are holding, and moving quickly where warranted. You could easily have linked this information yourself, but chose not to. Stop spreading misinformation.
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I didnt choose not to post a link, do not make invalid assumptions when you know nothing about me.
It's not an invalid assumption, it's fact that you included only doomer, outdated news in order to support your wrong conclusion either a) without bothering to check to see if your information was correct, or b) you knew but decided not to mention it.
If you don't like false accusations then don't make them. I know that I have zero respect for that approach to posting, and between that and the lazy doomering that's enough of you for me to know. Blocked, bye.
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People here don't like reading about the power our legal system has, they want to see drama and world wrestling stageplay. They want to imagine we're going to have a glorious people's liberation movement with molotov cocktails and guillotines. Everyone is the same, everyone rather escape into kayfabe.
Exactly, it's more kayfabe but on the left. It's people who rather indulge in a storyline than get active in their community and start fixing things structurally by like, working to elect actual representation for their communities and states.
My problem with America's leftists who want to violence their way to a better world is that in this country we don't even have experience doing that kind of thing, we don't have a plan, and nobody can give me a follow-through for what will happen if we magically end up with our glorious socialist leader who overthrows the government.
What about the millions of people we live next to who didn't vote for or ask for a coup? What about the military who are not only the largest and most powerful fighting force in the world, but are dedicated to protecting the seat of power in the US? Who exactly are we going to depose? All of congress and senate? What about their aides? What about the various departments and cabinets? Do we have people lined up to run the new government? Or are we gonna raw-dog it like they did in Nepal?
I strongly feel most people have ZERO idea the scale of such things and amount of coordination and planning involved in the kinds of fantasy plans the average lemmy lefty indulges in.
I see comments like that either calling for Trump to be deposed, or yeah, a full on civil war against Republicans at that point. The second is from people who can view chess only a few more moves in advance than those saying the first and know that we have a presidential line of succession and it's just as bad all the way down. But both are extremely naive views because this is a cultural problem with Republicans as a whole. Even if somehow you were to Thanos snap every Republican in power, the next election cycle will be just as bad, if not worse.
To fix, you have to address the militant individualism thats been romanticized by billionaires; the only thing that seems to have tricked down from them, who's only purpose is to get people to vote to lower taxes, but mainly benefit the rich. Democrats should start running on lowering or cutting taxes out right for anyone making less than 350k, and watch the cognitive dissonance happen with the hard core Rs who made their whole identity about not getting taxed.
Then we continue to build up our communities and homesteading hobbies and primary any Democrat who gives an inch to these fascists.
I really support this. We lost the reins when we checked out of our local communities and stopped looking at our local council leaders, judges, sheriffs and of course mayors and governors with the same scrutiny as we fixed on the annual 4-year WWE EXTREME federal election spectacle.
If we held them to the same standards and created a foundation of people who actually represent us, it would be far, far harder for the higher elected officials to walk all over us. And it's far easier to actually make changes to your community, it's actually doable to recall people in power in your state! Many state congress people often run uncontested as well, and if we paid attention to these situations we could mount opposition or even oppose them ourselves.
The thing that worries me is that so many are so cynical that they can't feel engaged with the often boring and even cringey state of local politics, and will invent reasons in their head to avoid involvement because it feels far, far less rewarding than complaining on the internet to people who will give you upvotes. I feel like this goes hand-in-hand with the social isolation that we've allowed to fester on both sides.
I really have to thank my wife as it's been a recent change for me, I was pretty isolationist. She's been a "townie" all her life and since moving in almost 8 years ago, I've started to really see the benefits of community, like farmers markets and such.
I think the best thing for people is to get active in their local community and politics. My brother was pretty conservative going back a long while; mainly about wanting lower or no taxes. He then ran for and won his HOA presidency and quickly realized how fucked they would be if they just got rid of their HoA fees. They needed to dredge their lake but the previous administration signed in a bilaw stating they couldn't raise the fees. They didn't have the money for it outright, nor could they pay back a loan. He didn't run again, but I'd like to think he learn a valuable lesson about public service that day, and the effort it takes to run a community.
So I've been protesting any company that's publicly traded. Had the same cell phone since 2019. Moving funds into a credit union. Cooking meals at home. On the rare occasion we eat out it's at a locally owned restaurant. Buying our produce at the farmers market and growing some of our own. For the stuff we can't avoid, getting bulk items from Costco until we can source better AND local. And then socials, getting rid of all the major ones and switching to the fediverse.
They're just as stupid as magats. How are they going to fight the most powerful military on the planet, with the largest police state backing that military up?
That is not going to happen. I'm sick of these keyboard agitators everywhere trying to stir up violence. That's exactly what this regime wants. And if shit hits the fan you know none of these cowards will walk the walk. It's so easy to bitch about what other people should be doing from the comfort of your home.
The road to facism, paved by resignation.
We are just laying down and taking it
But, if they carried on working wouldn't that make them Nazis?
They have to refuse illegal requests. Refuse to do immoral stuff. They may be fired, but they make a paper trail of why they're being fired and immediately sue.
It's about standing up to the crap and obstructing it. Resigning does nothing.
hopefully it's so that they can take positions where they can make a change
otherwise, yes I agree with you — they should be working from the inside to assist as much as possible, even though it may be frustrating. but that's how you push back.
Let me step aside so some sycophant will take my place and make things even worse.
Yeah I think they can do a lot more good inside the government than outside. Protesters are getting everything from pushed to killed now.