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All resigning does is let them easily replace you with someone that agrees with them.
If you think you need to resign, stay and make them go thru the hassle of firing you. Drag it out, file complaints, get the union.
Even if it's the same result a year later, that's a year without one more maga bootlicker doing your job.
Agreed. It's hard and I get it from a mental health perspective, but the best way to fight them is to make it hard, be annoying, be inconvenient, not just walking away. That's how they win. That's how they stack the department with sycophants and yes-men.
If you don't resign when your job demands you be complicit, at some point you are just following orders.
This is incredibly shortsighted. It's the same logic for "why don't soldiers just refuse illegal orders?"
The reason is that this is real life and not a movie. What do you think happens after you refuse because your think you're being asked for something illegal? Your boss high fives you and says sorry?
They tell you you are wrong, you either do it or you're fired with cause and you can say bye bye to any sort of unemployment insurance.
Disagree? Okay bro go prove that in court. I hope you have better lawyers and deeper pockets than the company you're now litigating with.
I also hope you don't have any rent, family or need for groceries, because you ain't getting any money while litigating and looking for a new job.
But yeah. Just refuse bro. Ez. Fascists hate this one simple trick.
Don't you lose any employment insurance coverage if you quit?
Probably, but on the flip side if you have retirement, you may be remaking it getting fired/discharged (in the military branches anyway).
My personal passive aggressive response to requests for work I disagree with is to drag my feet until it’s either forgotten or too late. It’s worked surprisingly well so far.
Yes. Unless you can prove a lack of workplace safety or demonstrate that they significantly altered the nature of your position. You can't make an accountant scrub toilets, for example.
What do I think or what do I know?
I've refused orders, been threatened with a legitimate mutiny case, saved people from being sacrificial goats...
If you want to ask questions that's one thing, but I have no idea where any of your assumptions came from...
Like:
That's just a wild opinion to have.
Have you ever even met anyone that works for the federal government in any capacity?
Used to work at a company that was selling computer equipment to terrorist organizations. They wanted an engineer to work with compliance to basically, very illegally, “reclassify” components so that they could get them to shady organizations more easily (figured this out after I had already accepted the position).
I could’ve just quit. But then they would’ve found some other engineer to do the work, and probably quite easily (they were paying well).
Instead I just refused to do what they asked of me. Got yelled at, they tried everything possible to get me to quit (moving my desk alone in the warehouse where it was freezing, making up rumors about me, etc). Still, it took them a year to finally find a reason to fire me (and still, it was without cause, so I got unemployment too). That’s 1 year that I wasted for them.
Most companies aren’t going to go through the hassle of firing for cause, because that opens them up to lawsuits. They will likely just take the hit of having to pay into unemployment, and lay you off instead.
It is possible to say No. You might get yelled at and be treated like shit, but at the end of the day, I knew I was doing the right thing. And that’s what’s most important, in my opinion.
People say “well if I say No, they’ll just fire me on the spot”, but have you actually tried to say No? If they do fire you, then make them go through the hassle of firing you, and for fucks sake, fight back!
If I can do it, anyone can do it.
Yeah that's what they did. And if they stayed there you'd still be calling them fascists. There's nothing they can actually do, it's resign or get fired anyway.
Just don't do the illegal thing
Great advice. Thanks Nancy Reagan.
"Remember kids, Winners don't do drugs!"
Yeah I wouldn’t work under questionable and actively disingenuous leadership, especially if they’re also ethically clashing with mine, so I get their reaction extremely well.
I couldn’t do it, so I can’t expect others to, but it’s a sad and bitter fact that it just leaves more room for the rot to fester.
But I personally think that the more the rot spreads, the more immediate the threat will seem to most, the more obvious the need for change, then perhaps that’ll encourage more action elsewhere. At best, the rot spreads too fast for its own good and ultimately kills the host. Once the ship goes down, the people can get together to rebuild. With more safeguards and more robust systems.
If you can say "I resign" you can say "this is illegal and I'm not complying".
"OK then you're fired"
Resigning gives you control over the situation.
Why do people keep insisting they know about things and then immediately proving they have no idea what they're talking about?
Federal employees aren't the same as civilians.
Also, get on the soapbox. Even if you can't apply social pressure, you can at least inform the people.
No, I just know how well that worked out after the civil war when people bowed to threats from the KKK...
Do you know that there was a progressive and diverse set of politicians in the South after the war till people started resigning due to death threats?
Are you ignorant of history or do you just think shit will be magically different this time?