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Vast Number of Windows Users Refusing to Upgrade After Microsoft's Embrace of AI Slop (futurism.com)

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[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

I still have a dual-boot desktop that I keep a copy of Windows 10 on for one or two bits of software that I can't get 100% working in Wine, and yeah I'm definitely not upgrading. For one thing I can't because it's an older CPU that doesn't have TPM on it, but also because of the AI thing.

The idea that Microsoft is expecting me to purchase new hardware (which is now ludicrously expensive because of companies like Microsoft going all-in on AI slop) so that I can 'upgrade' and make it easier for them to use their AI slop spyware to harvest my info is so preposterously arrogant and evil that I actually find it super funny.

It's like if someone was going to rob you and they expected you to go purchase and supply the gun they use to stick you up with lol.

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It really is a perfect storm against Windows/Microsoft:

AI Sloppifying their everything
Linux is now very easy to get into

TL;DR: Short Microsoft or no balls

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It really isn't for most people though.

You're expecting that people will seek out alternatives. I expect the more likely reality. People will just stop using PCs completely outside of work.

It's not a matter of how easy something is. It's a matter of human perspective. Right now they think of PCs as being "Windows". In much the same way some of our moms would say "I bought you a Nintendo game for your xbox!"

And instead of buying non-compliant software, she actually DID buy an XBox game. And called it Nintendo.

Same way down in the south you might overhear someone order a coke. To which the waitress asks "what kind?" And the reply is "Sprite".

Kleenex/Tissues.

You get the idea. To them PCs are made by Windows and thats all they know. They just know they don't like the AI they gwt forced to use at work. So instead of using it at home, or using an alternative, they figure they can just watch youtube on their phone.

YOU use a PC as a PC. Most other people use PCs as a browser to go to facebook, and youtube, and instagram. All the things that make you cringe, thats what a PC is to them.

So when you say "You can customize everything in linux!", their response, from someone who used WindowsXP for 15 years and never once changed the wallpaper, will be "but why?".

Hopefully that can help you see the difference between "it's easy" and "it's a thought that runs through their brain at all"

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

When it comes to whether people will switch I think sentiment is more towards diy PC gamers who are used to putting together and upgrading their systems and doing a fresh install.

When it comes to the general consumer i expect them to have the tech literacy of boomers when it comes to a PC.

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[–] mad_djinn@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

yep. attention is all you need with the manufactured consent of the free marketplace. behavioralist by design!

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

you say that, but i'm telling you, every year linux getting more and more popular, if not stopped, will create a tipping point. It just takes a few more waves of youtube videos to get younger people into it, and young people grow into older people with strong opinions

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 69 points 2 days ago (3 children)

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[–] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 50 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

Man MS,…

-W8=> dude, we just want an OS that works

-Voice commands=> please don’t give hackers that kind of acces through our speakers

-Vista=> just fkn work already

-Onedrive all over the place=> nope

-365=> no thx

When will these assholes learn? If this is the straw that breaks multiple camels then good.

Windows users want a menu button in the lower left corner and shit to work after a short installer. How the fuck do you keep messing that up?

🐧

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 days ago

Windows users want a menu button in the lower left corner and shit to work after a short installer. How the fuck do you keep messing that up?

Capitalists are literally Mt Krabbs:

"Squidward! New rule! All customers must fill in this survey about the details of their day before they order!" Drops a giant stack of papers on the counter

Squidward sighs "Why are we doing this?"

"Because then I can sell their information for more MONEY! Hyukukukukuk!"

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Who can ever forget the "Remind me in 3 days" bullshit.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Every update it tries to dark pattern me into setting up a one drive backup to prepare to update to windows 11. Which my pc isn't qualified for.

[–] OrganicWetNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I'm still on W10 and this is what's happening to me, my hardware is good enough, but I don't want W11. It keeps forcing me to upgrade, it even downloaded the update without my consent and one day it just started installing, despite me telling it not to at every possible point. Something went very wrong with the update and after I rolled back to W10, my OS got corrupted and now I am moving to Linux Mint, as soon as I make sure nothing in my actual PC broke (event log says harddisk has bad blocks, but this only started happening after the forced update screwed things up).

How anyone at Microsoft thinks this is ok and a good way to treat a reliable user since W95, is just beyond me. But I am really excited to dip into the Linux world, finally!

[–] ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Also UI that operates near instantaneously. Not waiting for the option I want to pop in.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Also not having online search results posted above the locally installed programs. If I search for “cmd” and hit Enter, I want it to open Command Prompt. I don’t want to do a fucking Edge search for “cmd”, or have it open some internet ad for something else named “cmd”.

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[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 78 points 2 days ago

There’s nothing I do with my home computer that warrants that AI is integrated to the OS. I browse the web. Play games. Occasionally I work on some personal projects.

I can never see myself say ” Hey Cortana! I want to play Megabonk!”. I see much less reason for the OS to constantly record everything I do to do this.

Please don’t shove AI down my throat.

[–] python@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (15 children)

Like apparently everyone else, I moved to Linux Mint and have been loving it! It really is easy to use, but I've also realized that my technical knowledge is at a point where I really don't need it to be easy. Like, I've always considered myself kinda tech illiterate in comparison to the people I'm around (I'm a software engineer who specializes in JavaScript/React, but I'm around Rust devs and people who set up docker containers for fun) but apparently just being comfortable using the console is far above what the average user will do. I think there was an xkcd about this kind of phenomenon

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)

XKCD

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 13 points 2 days ago

This is the absolutely perfect way to describe what it's like listening to Linux fans give advice to newcomers.

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[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Eh. I installed Linux Mint this weekend because I was sick of Microsoft's bullshit and I had to connect my PC to my router with an Ethernet cable to install a driver for my wifi adapter from the terminal. I am quite tech savvy and was very comfortable with this whole process and it took no time at all, but my wife who knows barely anything about computers would have probably given up the moment the Internet didn't work when Mint installed. Most people use routers that they rent for too much money from their ISPs and don't even know you can plug shit into the backs of those routers yourself. The moment the wifi doesn't work on the new OS even though the password is right, it's game over for their ability to troubleshoot it. That is why Linux won't get normies on it anytime soon. After that my experience has been extremely smooth and I have been able to do anything I've wanted to do without touching the terminal (although I prefer terminal commands), but that initial hurdle is just way too much to expect from the average person who just wants to get on Netflix and Facebook asap.

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[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Finally converted the last computer in my house from Windows to Linux. My wife was the last holdout and she's been loving her Linux machine.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 48 points 2 days ago (14 children)

Huge numbers of Windows users are refusing to upgrade to Windows 11 -- and many of them are citing its AI features as the reason why.

Spoiler: They're not. They're postponing. Eventually, they'll almost all give in to the bullying :(

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 days ago (5 children)

All my remaining W10 machines in the house are just in a holding pattern because I haven't bothered to move them over to Linux yet. For me (and hopefully many others), its just lack of free time and procrastination. There is zero chance they'll go to W11 for me personally.

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[–] viking@infosec.pub 18 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Windows 10 IoT LTSC is supported until 2032. That's a problem for future me...

Hopefully by then I've switched to an employer that allows me to run Xubuntu in the office. Right now my hands are tied.

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[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 79 points 3 days ago (33 children)

I'm one of them, and currently looking into Linux, if I can migrate my Photoshop tools/brushes/gradients/etc successfully over to another program that is compatible.

My only hang up after that is gaming, and I feel that can be resolved with dual boot to win10.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 95 points 3 days ago (17 children)

Gaming on Linux either works on Linux or the game requires a rootkit malware to run.

I refuse to call it "kernel-level anti-cheat." That's like calling a sucking chest wound "alternative breathing"

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[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 41 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Why not just play games on linux?

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[–] Talaraine@fedia.io 36 points 3 days ago (15 children)

Gaming on Linux works now. I play every game I care for.

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[–] UnrefinedChihuahua@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 2 days ago

Moved 5 home PCs from Win10 to either Mint or Bazzite this year. No complaints from the family; we'll not be going back to M$.

[–] gabor_legrady@lemmy.org 4 points 1 day ago

I have used MS for years and also interacting with linux based server systems daily. I do stick with windows, but I also disable most of AI related features (I used auto captioning in some cases). While I use AI daily it is a local sandboxed instance. I think they should focus on other areas, but every tech company is FOMO on AI.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I used windows 11 for too damn long before switching to Mint. I feel like I already damned myself.

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Wash yourself in the soothing glow of Mint's DE and be born again!

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[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 32 points 2 days ago

"Upgrade" lmao

[–] Walleby@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 days ago (9 children)

I‘ve switched to Linux mint. 95% of my time I am using it instead of Windows and this is just because of that stupid kernel anti cheat software…

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[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Linux is a great option nowadays especially if you go for one of the more mainstream distros. Otherwise Windows 11 IoT LTSC is the best of a bad lot.

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[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 23 points 2 days ago (36 children)

I'm not only refusing to downgrade to Windows 11, my home system got switched to Linux (with the support of my SO) despite me thinking Linux is probably the single least user-friendly system I've ever had the misfortune to use.

That's how bad Windows 11 looks to me.

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[–] bstix@feddit.dk 10 points 2 days ago

Breaking the preview pane in the final update for windows 10 was a nice touch.

[–] jollyroger@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Same, just got a new framework 13 laptop, it's not running Windows, sleep, fingerprint reader, Bluetooth, gpu drivers it all works. Linux now. All the games I currently play just work out of the box, steam just adds proton to the download. I don't use Microsoft Office apps though, more than happy with the alternatives.

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