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[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 59 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

My gf basically does 3-4 hours of work a day including meetings and then literally naps or watches TV all day. She's taught herself how to crochet and she's done like half a cardigan in a week because she has so much down time

Boy i sure fucking wish I could get a gig like that. Instead i'm paid 2/3rds as much to sweat my dick, balls and ass off in a kitchen, standing all day, one unpaid break that i'm forced to take. 30 minute commute each way.

I can't even look for work like that because even if I could find a job i couldn't pass a drug test. I want endless, hell like torment for the people responsible for marijuana drug tests precluding people from employment in fucking 2025

[–] mendiCAN@hexbear.net 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

they drug test for kitchen work now? fuck me when i was young restaurant work was the best place to find a drug dealer and half the people were high on the job wtf happened

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 23 points 3 days ago (4 children)

They probably do test at some places but no i meant i can't look for work-from-home work because of it. And although I love cooking for people, commuting sucks, not being in control of my environment sucks (the A/C breaks all the time, the school Im at apparently has literally only 2 maintenance guys), putting on clothes sucks. I'm just insanely jealous of my partner, her biggest complaints are just that her coworkers do dumb shit and she's frequently bored. She also gets bonuses and shit, i'm staggered by how jealous i am

I think the only way I could work from home is if I manage to not smoke weed for 3-4 months (i'll want to die because i'll be unable to sleep and even if weed doesn't always put me to sleep it at least helps me not feel like i'm sitting in bed uncomfortable trapped inside my own thoughts) and i manage to find something that doesn't care I have 0 on paper office worker qualifications, or if I do some streamer shit but let's be real, I'm not knowledgeable enough to teach anybody cooking info they couldn't get elsewhere and while I'm ok looking i'm not charismatic and i'm an asshole, i'm not getting that hasan piker mega fan base even if i could tolerate the public scrutiny (i couldn't)

[–] Ithorian@hexbear.net 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If your biggest concern really is just a piss test weed there ways to pass it even if you only take a couple days off smoking.

[–] MiraculousMM@hexbear.net 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's even easier if you can get clean piss from someone and just smuggle it in. It's hilariously easy to do as long as you keep it between 90-100F

[–] CatoPosting@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago

I know someone who got a job at a prison (medical, not a guard) and successfully used synthetic piss they bought somewhere

[–] woodenghost@hexbear.net 9 points 3 days ago

I have a friend who's a cook. For a long time, he hid his depression and didn't know he had adhd and self medicated with weed. But it stopped working at some point. Luckily, he got into therapy, before something worse happened, but it got close. Now he's got a family and is doing great. Not saying this is comparable and of course, in an ideal world, they just wouldn't do those stupid tests. But maybe you can find something else for your sleep and your thoughts? Medication/therapy/exercises/meditation/journaling or anything? Wish you luck.

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[–] redchert@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 days ago

drug testing is another form of class warfare and turning societal ills into individualistic moral failings.

[–] jackmaoist@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago (3 children)

30 minute commute each way.

Lucky. My commute is 2-3 hours one way.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

if that's every day idk how you even have time to eat and sleep

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[–] WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 50 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

like the four day work week's benefits to productivity, any conclusion of this sort (i.e. easing the boot actually helps both sides) will be summarily disregarded because the point is labor discipline

[–] CatoPosting@hexbear.net 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I really hope I live long enough to see somewhere on the globe make a 24hr work week the norm (4x6)

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 23 points 3 days ago

porky-happy 24 hour work day you say?

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 3 days ago
[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Is it not a contradiction? Why don't we see hogs ripping each others faces off fighting about whether labor discipline or squeezing more profit out is more important?

[–] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

It might be, but until the day when a company that publicly embraces work-from-home as the preferred norm defeats another company that does not, it won't be acknowledged as such by the actors in the system.

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 12 points 3 days ago

Is it not a contradiction? Why don't we see hogs ripping each others faces off fighting about whether labor discipline or squeezing more profit out is more important?

Doing something out of the ordinary as a manager will get you blamed if anything goes wrong. Doing the ordinary will not. There is pressure on management in companies to continue doing things like this even if they are known to reduce productivity.

[–] WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

disclaimer, this is a rough observation, definitely not a robust analysis.

the other flank exists, but it's largely cordoned off to start-ups and the odd private company. some companies implement these policies, but because competition is very much not real for most of the economy in the current stage of capitalism (especially in America), work policy is ordained mainly by a cadre of coordinated monopolists.

beyond this, class interest writ large of the western bourgeoisie currently is to stamp out any working class momentum that could form, given the heightening contradictions coming to roost with China's ascendance and America's stagnation. There's a new cadre unwilling to make the social concessions of their forefathers to combat socialism, instead taking an even more militant approach and embracing domestic fascism. Throw in deeply-rooted ideology w/rt the protestant work ethic and grind culture as well as the need to be able to assert hierarchy on their subordinates.

[–] TheSpectreOfGay@hexbear.net 47 points 3 days ago (4 children)

okay but like have you thought about the poor poor landlords who will lose out on rent for commercial districts

[–] durduramayacaklar@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 3 days ago

Yeah, we will send them in to kolkhoz and put them into a hard labor to earn their life.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago

If they're so worried they can just sell the buildings to someone else! That's da free market baybeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

[–] huf@hexbear.net 15 points 3 days ago

maybe they should ask the job creators to start creating rent

[–] UmmmCheckPlease@hexbear.net 4 points 3 days ago

They shuttered some large buildings and parking garages in the downtown by me because the landlord finally kicked it - and had essentially never done maintenance or paid utilities - and their estate refuses to as well. They’re just liquidating what they can. So now it sits boarded up while homeless people live in the rain across the street.

Also bonus points because the landleach owned a majority of commercial real estate in the downtown, and used that status to kill transit projects, affordable housing, etc.

[–] kotak_doost@hexbear.net 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I like not being tied to an office but I really enjoy interactions with people. I quite liked working remotely in medtech where I was bouncing from hospital, cadaver lab etc

[–] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 32 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Cadaver lab interactions can be a little one-sided, though.

[–] StillNoLeftLeft@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago

Amazingly we had a HR ghoul organizational hour about "worklife health and well being" with an open chat today and some people in the organization posted gems like:

You should make sure that people don't suffer from boredout (a new term for not having enough to do, supposedly just as bad as a burnout)

People being allowed to do remote and hybrid work has been the single worst thing in "worklife health and well being" as it ruins cohesion in the workplace

The HR ghouls themselves made a whole speech about "sick leave culture" and how they are trying to combat that. The organization is basically the entire healthcare and social sector of a huge area and the conditions suck in most places, people have been let go, the workloads are unbearable across the board and the environments we are in are open offices, old buildings with mold issues etc. Yet they talk about "sick leave culture" like there are no material things making people sick. They could start by mentioning covid even once, but they won't. They could embrace remote work without mentioning how performance must stay the same every time it comes up. Everyone who does remote days performs better on it.

But what is most surprising are these supposedly fellow workers who anonymously shit on those who need remote work to even be able to work. I bet they are medical field types because those rehab people, therapists etc. often harbor the most toxic views on other humans and muh performance. I could have posted something myself about how not everyone thrives in the same environment, but decided not to in case they can somehow see who is behind the comments.

[–] homhom9000@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I like going for planning and meetings but everything else can be done at home. I had more time for after work hobbies when I was home, now I use it to commute

[–] SerLava@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago

Exactly. 1-2 days in office per month is PEAK. I once worked at a place that was basically just 2 meeting rooms that we'd pack twice a month. Amazing

[–] SwitchyandWitchy@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I have one friend who still works remote and she's doing really well in her personal life and won't give it up unless the other option is unemployment. I really miss not having to commute, and I'm sure the environment misses it more than I do.

[–] burlemarx@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I still have the (now) privilege of working from home. Even though I'm struggling to handle everything in my life, I don't even know how I would be able to do everything I do today if without wfh.

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[–] fannin@hexbear.net 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It doesn't make me thrive, I hated it. The office was about all the social interaction I ever got and my alcoholism got a million times worse when it got taken away for WFM. I'm not saying we should make policy based on my neuroses but until a company pays my rent because they're using my apartment as an office I will never consider doing it.

[–] bobs_guns@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Meanwhile I will never consider going into the office unless the alternative is starving to death because it's much harder to be sexually harassed in a remote job.

[–] fannin@hexbear.net 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I mean the pro-remote work stance is completely valid especially that one. This is just a me hangup which wouldn't be an issue if I had actual friends. Just mad I got fired over alcoholism made worse by the company forcing me remote for Covid.

[–] bobs_guns@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Couldn't hurt to have some friends. True.

[–] fannin@hexbear.net 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

And for the record the forced remote work was the correct covid policy. I just caught a stray.

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[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago (3 children)

hope you do better with the alcoholism, I need to quit drinking too

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[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I hate office socializing because saying the wrong thing to the wrong person could get me fired. It's a minefield lmao

[–] fannin@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago

My coworkers were mostly all on H1Bs soooo

[–] StillNoLeftLeft@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This is basically me. I do all my work remote apart from client visits that are either in office or somewhere around town and I thrive doing this. But I only get to do this because my current manager gets my type of neurospicy and the public sector wants to cut down on office costs, in the private sector it's all RTO now.

I could not do this work otherwise and I dread the day they decide to end this. I have no trust that this will continue. It is the first time in my life where I've felt like I can do paid work without burning myself out.

I schedule my client work for the afternoons and in the morning I just go from bed to the laptop in my jammies and a cup of tea and start from emails etc. I always have more clients and more downtime than my office loving coworkers (who I love to see in short burts).

A whole office day feels like a spesific type of torture in getting bored and faking it to me. It drains me.

The only day of the week that I hate with a passion is the one where the manager wants us all to come to the main office for a team meeting in the morning which means waking up very early and an hour long commute both ways. Every single one of these meetings have been ones that could have been an email or a Teams meeting.

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[–] nothx@hexbear.net 13 points 3 days ago

I miss it soooo much. My current job is hybrid, but everyone is so office brained it makes it hard to keep a consistent schedule. So basically they ruin it. Ugh I miss full remote.

[–] blunder@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I find it very strange that remote work does not enforce atomization of labor and have a chilling effect on labor organizing. I would think a brain in an individual cell where you can turn on and off its access to other brains at will would be the ideal work arrangement from the boss's perspective. Whereas a company cannot control where its assembled workers meet up after work

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[–] AernaLingus@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Can anyone find the actual study? The fact that I couldn't easily find it myself and the disclaimer that "This article is based on verified sources and supported by editorial technologies" makes me suspicious this might have been fabricated out of whole cloth by an LLM.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I did more digging and here are some more sources

https://theconversation.com/working-from-home-can-make-us-healthier-and-happier-employers-benefit-too-heres-the-evidence-if-you-need-any-convincing-224510

The findings look to be based on data from a long-term study that tracked 375 Australian adults using fitness trackers starting in 2019, which provided a baseline of data from before the pandemic https://academic.oup.com/abm/article/58/4/286/7613320

And here's one of the specific papers published from the ARIA data. It analyzes the direct impact of the initial COVID-19 lockdowns and is the source of the "extra sleep" finding. https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0248008

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