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[–] miz@hexbear.net 69 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

millions will take this as 100% verified true when it should not even have been reported in the first place

[–] john_brown@hexbear.net 34 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There are posters on this very website who choose to believe Candace's made up story about Kirk turning on Israel in secret before he was shot

[–] CarbonConscious@hexbear.net 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean to be fair, I think

"he had a secret conversation"

is a lot more forgiveable to believe than

"he had a secret conversation^~~~frombeyondthegrave!!!~~~^"

[–] john_brown@hexbear.net 9 points 3 weeks ago

They're both coming from the same clout chasing liar whose last big secret revelation was transvestigating Brigitte Macron. I think it's safe to say there's no reason to treat anything she says as valid or worth consideration.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 68 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Charlie Kirk came to me in a dream afterwards and informed me he renounced Israel and accepted the light of Islam. He now sits at Allah's throne and gazes proudly on the ummah.

[–] deathtoreddit@lemmygrad.ml 38 points 3 weeks ago

god willing!

[–] LeninWalksTheEarth@hexbear.net 65 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Candace getting her own "I have a dream" speech.

[–] deathtoreddit@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 3 weeks ago

Ok that's a good un

[–] 666@lemmygrad.ml 54 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It's incredible to me that so many people were absolutely up in arms, even in my own real, personal life, about this fucking guy getting a free throat surgery that they completely ignore the vultures of culture tearing apart his still-warm body into scraps for the media.

Leftists didn't immediately turn his death into a spectacle, leftists didn't immediately start trying to fuck his wife (elon), leftists didn't hijack his organization. Just really funny stuff.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 39 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

immediately start trying to fuck his wife (elon),

did I miss a super cringe tweet

[–] 666@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It was posted on here a bit ago, right after Kirk died Elon immediately unfollowed him and started following Ezra while retweeting her posts. We all know how he is.

[–] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 28 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Unfollowing someone who just got killed is the even funnier part tbh. Like he immediately doesn't want to hear from this guy anymore now that he's dead. Fake friend and hypocrite got himself shot, gtfo my feed

[–] GiorgioBoymoder@hexbear.net 37 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Leftists didn't immediately turn his death into a spectacle

going to have to disagree with you on that one.

[–] Red_October@hexbear.net 48 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah dawg the memes were pretty lit

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 29 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

we don't have the media jobs to get paid for it

[–] 666@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 3 weeks ago

that was sort of my point, memes on hexbear/instagram isn't the same as full on presidential endorsement at your funeral, having major news channels broadcast it as a tragedy and genuinely float around the idea of minting coins. That's a spectacle. Not internet memes.

[–] 666@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

going to have to disagree with you on that one.

What influential leftist was up on TV, What leftist was taking over his foundation and what leftist is turning it into a national tragedy in american governance? That is exactly what I mean, not "dank memes on instagram and hexbear!!"

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

What influential leftist was up on TV

There are influential leftists on TV?

I guess Hasan's stream gets covered by those kinds of things and he immediately went to condemn violence or whatever.

Either way, leftists independently immediately were celebrating while most people were still in the "what's a charlie kirk?" (many of whom very soon became "I heard Charlie was a great man. A genius they say" people). No top-down propaganda machine needed other than Charlie living a life that would lead to good people celebrating its loss. But yeah: it wasn't a spectacle - people were just genuinely happy.

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 12 points 3 weeks ago

There are influential leftists on TV?

xi-square-up

[–] 666@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago

Yup, what I mean. Us celebrating isn't a spectacle, what occurred afterwards to manufacture the hysteria in media certainly was, though.

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[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 52 points 3 weeks ago

I gave a pigeon to one of the temple augurs and they told me the pigeon guts say Charlie Kirk smelt it and therefore was the one that dealt it.

[–] invo_rt@hexbear.net 48 points 3 weeks ago
[–] deforestgump@hexbear.net 46 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] axont@hexbear.net 54 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Yeah Owens is a Catholic. You're not supposed to get visions from dead people in dreams, that's evangelical snake handling stuff. Adult American concerts to Catholicism have no idea how to do this. I thought it was bad enough when those types wanted to impeach the pope or whatever but now they're seeing spirit visions?

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 32 points 3 weeks ago

You are supposed to get visions from the virgin mary or jesus, silly evangelicals

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (7 children)

You're not supposed to get visions from dead people in dreams, that's evangelical snake handling stuff.

yeah man fuck saint Teresa of Avila, more like saint... protestantesa and saint Faustina? Pfffft, more like saint... Evangelicalina

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Getting dreams of the recently deceased and getting dreams and vision of saints are generally considered separate things in Catholic mysticism. The recently deceased in particular are thought to be primed for diabolical influence, where-as the confirmed canonization of a saint is what demonstrates that such visions are divinely inspired, and even then you are meant to share these things first in private with your confessor who will consult with others to determine it's divinity and authencity, then publicly, if at all.

Getting dreams of the dead isn't unique to Protestantism, particularly in Counter-Reformation Catholicism, but how she is approaching it as a faith experience is very Protestant.

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

You are supposed to do a lot of things, but catholics don't follow those rules as a rule (Heh). (Protestants are also only supposed to derive their understanding of christ from scripture, but American protestantism is like 80% American Civic Religion by weight, and European Lutheranism isn't any better) Folk saints are common even when declared explicitly not real saints by the catholic church (Santa Muerte veneration is explicitly blasphemous as per the Catholic church, there are still thousands of shrines in her name), folk catholicism is so pervasive it's been the subject of study for generations, and basically no saint followed the road you're "Supposed" to take as a believer to get where they did.

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Given that the official saint you did mention did generally follow doctrine outside of being even more strict and pious than surrounded Catholics, there are plenty of saints who followed the road of ecstatic worship, it's a well trod path in the Church supported by the earliest traditions.

I'm not arguing that other Catholics aren't also bad at Catholicism, even those brought up in the faith, I'm just saying that Candace Owens is mostly just Catholic for the idea of tradition, less so than any actual adherence to it (outside of the tradition of a lack of adherence to tradition lol).

That said, the idea of there being a Saint Candace Owens based on her having dreams of Charlie Kirk is very funny to me.

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[–] IncensedCedar@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago

On the contrary, This is one of Charlie Kirks documented miracles. He will be canonized as a Catholic saint soon enough

[–] 9to5@hexbear.net 36 points 3 weeks ago

I love this for her

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 34 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

American Hamlet is going to be weird.

[–] Kopfrkingl@hexbear.net 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Candace fence fights JD Vance during which Kamala drinks the goblet of poison, Trump's plot to kill Kirk is revealed by a dying Vance after which she charges at Trump killing him; a dying Candace names Xi Jinping the rightful heir to the american empire.

[–] Red_October@hexbear.net 18 points 3 weeks ago

Then the Venezuelan army charges into D.C. and finds no one left to fight.

[–] micnd90@hexbear.net 27 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Where's Emperor Palpatine emoji when we need it... We need to encourage this behavior, make America Unhinged Again. Bring witches, voodoo, seance, ouija board back. Return to TRADITION

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] micnd90@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago

Lol I'm thinking more about his face when he said "good, good..." with the smirk

[–] blunder@hexbear.net 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

she's been blaming israel, which i assume is actually "the jews" coming from her.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 27 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

The ADL will be like "this is fine but we're concerned with the antisemitism coming from the left!"

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 29 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

'It seems that Candance Owens made an awkward slip of the tongue in a moment of enthusiasm, not an anti-semitic statement. In this moment, all sides should give one another a bit of grace, perhaps even the benefit of the doubt, and take a breath. Now here's why campus protestors are worse than the SS'

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 25 points 3 weeks ago

In this moment, all sides should give one another a bit of grace, perhaps even the benefit of the doubt, and take a breath. Now here's why campus protestors are worse than the SS'

:i-cant:

[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 23 points 3 weeks ago

Place your bets! Place your bets!

Who will be the first chud grifter to claim that they doubted Charlie's posthumous messages until they were able to put their hand in the hole in his neck?

[–] Lenins_Sabocat@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] huf@hexbear.net 22 points 3 weeks ago

tv (or whatever) really has eaten the brains of people, they cant just tell you a thing now, they always have to "will they make it? we'll find out after the break! . previously, we were about to find out if they will make it or not. well, it's very exciting, let's find out! the suspense is killing me!"

[–] chungusamonugs@hexbear.net 22 points 3 weeks ago
[–] NuraShiny@hexbear.net 21 points 3 weeks ago

I hope they are revealed when they shoot you in the neck, Candice.

[–] deathtoreddit@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 3 weeks ago

Oh I forgot to source this; there is more but eh...

[–] CancelledKirk@hexbear.net 10 points 3 weeks ago

Grifter gonna grift

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