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In explaining exactly why this is so bleak, Klippenstein references the dystopian science fiction movie Minority Report, where people are arrested not for anything they’ve done but for “pre-crime” predicted by people with psychic powers. In this real-world case, the “indicia” (indicators) of future political violence listed in the report are:

anti-Americanism,
anti-capitalism,
anti-Christianity,
support for the overthrow of the United States Government,
extremism on migration,
extremism on race,
extremism on gender
hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on family,
hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on religion, and
hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on morality.
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[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 54 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Good article and lots of points to discuss. But man, a Trotsky quote (albeit a good one) coupled with whining about “authoritarianism,” then this line:

Anyone who cares about living in a free society needs to reject the notion that certain ideological perspectives need to be monitored and contained, regardless of the nature of those perspectives. Even genuinely vile ideas need to be fought at the level of ideas.

Jacobin isn’t beating the western Marxism allegations

[–] miz@hexbear.net 53 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

living in a free society

lmao yea when your boss can fire you for objecting to genocide on social media that's fine, what's important is whether you can debate the humanity of black people

jagoff

I fucking hate liberals. if you force them they will acknowledge material constraints but only until the next time they open their object-impermanent mouths

[–] Self_Sealing_Stem_Bolt@hexbear.net 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Even western marxism is being nice, thats just plain old Liberalism lmao

[–] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"Are there civil liberties for the fascists? Are they gonna be allowed their newspapers and their radio programs, are they gonna be able to keep all their farms?" parenti-hands

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Even genuinely vile ideas need to be fought at the level of ideas.

And what's the contingency plan for when you don't win?

[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 day ago

Got in an argument with this annoying POS saying "just make better propaganda no need to limit speech" like yeah sure ur freshly decolonized country is gonna be able to fend off mercenaries trained across the border that will coupe your state but also you have to invest a bunch of money, time, and energy to win the propaganda campaign against the richest country in the world.

Western leftists need to eat rocks

[–] miz@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago

I wonder if the class character of the ownership of major media platforms has any impact on the bAtTLe oF iDeAs. oh well, I'm comfortable... better not think about it too hard!

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[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 57 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

You're in-line being marched into the death camp

The left-liberal your chained to is still on his 'if only pepole had voted for Kamala this wouldn't be happening' smuglord shit

One of the guards overhears and shouts and you to be quiet or you'll be first in line for the Tesla death pods

Your look over at the guard, and who do you see but...

spoilertop-cop

[–] NedIsakoff@hexbear.net 80 points 1 day ago

anti-Capitalism

Gonna tell my chud in-laws that complaining about gas or grocery prices is anti-Free Market and they're committing a pre-crime

[–] Esoteir@hexbear.net 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

no officer, im pro-capitalism...

...pro-state capitalism... Heh.

deng-cowboy

pulls out giant zweihänder with "produktivkräfte" engraved on it from behind the massive deng portrait on my wall

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 25 points 1 day ago

Prostate capitalism? I think we’re already experiencing that

[–] NeelixBiederman@hexbear.net 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] miz@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I was just moving into the second season on this show and Netflix pulled it. fuckin' rentier bullshit

EDIT: oh hey it's on Bezos Prime

[–] secular_shaman420@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago

If i had skill I would a make a bot that comments whenever someone brings up a streaming service; it'd recommend a list of trusted VPN providers and a 'how to' for setting up torrents, so some people will stop supporting these damn data mining bastards. I know boycottings about as useful as "votes", but it feels like stealing which is nice

stick with it, it's a good show

[–] TheLastHero@hexbear.net 56 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I hit 10/10 indicators let's fucking goooo throw my ass in federal prison lets-fucking-go

(I better see you libs in there too, hexbear meetup is scheduled during the 1 hour of exercise time at ADX Florence)

[–] RiotDoll@hexbear.net 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

they're gonna deathsquad us man

you're just gonna be asleep one night, your posts flagging you in palantir like you came up on a Phoenix Program list, and an operator is just gonna make it look like you were the victim of senseless street violence.

"federal prison" give me a break, this is a pretext for political culling.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 28 points 1 day ago

Well, that's a hell of an act. What do you call it?

spoiler

Asking to be sent to an American prison to hang out with my comrades very-smart

[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ill bring the toilet wine, what flavor yall thinkin?

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

wine

Are you one of those 'champagne socialists' I hear so much about

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[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 33 points 1 day ago

This is probably more performative nonsense and won't really change what's already happening, but it makes me irrationally angry. The bastards want to kill us for having the gall to complain about them killing us. The planet's gonna cook and the vulnerable will suffer and they'll keep the fires going until someone finally stops them, all in the name of protecting an imagined feeling of superiority. One hopes that there are future historians and they'll look back on this time as a profound dark age but I haven't been optimistic about that in a while.

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 71 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The irony: left-wing structural analysis actually pushes people away from lone-wolf attacks and toward mass organizing for change.

That's not really an irony. That's just the sort of violence fascism fears. Lone wolves rarely amount to anything. Organized action is an actual show of power they have to worry about

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 1 day ago

if anything, lone wolf shit works in their favor
"see! the scary leftists are out to get you! we will keep all True Patriots™ safe by drone striking the dsa"

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If there's one thing I can count on these twitching, slavering fascists to do, it's overplay their hand too early and piss off tons of people who might otherwise not have cared. A Kamala or Biden 2 regime would have just adopted some boring and convoluted technocratic framework for doing the same thing in a way that was hard to notice and harder to follow, continuing the salami tactics. These other nazis just can't wait to jump the gun, and break into a sprint while frantically seig-heiling with both arms as soon as they lose patience. Our pool of potential allies who are now undeniably in the same boat as us dirty commies has practically doubled in size overnight.

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[–] adultswim_antifa@hexbear.net 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I used to be anti-Christianity, but I am more anti American Christian at this point. I am an atheist but the Bible pretty clearly says the typical American Christian is going to burn in hell forever which is a beautiful thing to believe in.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

American evangelicalism is a worship of white supremacy with a very thin layer of Christian vocabulary

[–] TrashGoblin@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago

American Evangelicalism (and the tradcath heresy) are open worship of the Demiurge at this point.

[–] fannin@hexbear.net 23 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I hate this take. Evangelical Christianity is just as valid a read on the Bible than any other. Any read on the Bible that attempts to be ideologically consistent has literally no choice but to ignore the verses they don’t like.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago

yeah it's pure copium.

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[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 55 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] jack@hexbear.net 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"extremism on race" here meaning "not racist"

[–] cmhickman358@hexbear.net 25 points 1 day ago

Also if you acknowledge that white people have ever done anything bad in history

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[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“No OnE sHoUlD bE aRrEsTeD fOr WoRdS! yOu CaNt KiLl An IdEa!”

“How dare you hold illegal opinions! You should be arrested for not indulging in groupthink!”

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There’s people on the right who are shitting their pants at this because they think whoever comes in power next will make it illegal to say the nword

[–] jack@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago

I expect to be commissar of the revolutionary provisional government by 2029 so this is actually true

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago

i want to live in the world chuds think we live in

[–] shath@hexbear.net 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

is that like precum when you're close

[–] Sleve_McDichael@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] shath@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago

Hey officer I'm keeping my vital essences to myself - don't get the cumming police involved please

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 37 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Many of those listed things have been explicitly adjudicated as "free speech" by SCOTUS.

But good luck to him on arresting 70-80% of the population, I guess.

[–] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 62 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The supreme court doesn't give a fuck anymore

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It never really did, but a conservative court will always side with conservative prez when push comes to shove

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[–] mactan@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 day ago

scotus will rubber stamp anything he does

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[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 30 points 1 day ago

smuglord "Ah, but censoring anti-americanism is anti-american. So Drumpf is the real pre-criminal here"

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 17 points 1 day ago

"Extremism on race"... so, let's throw the whole Republican Party in jail

[–] Comrade_Mushroom@hexbear.net 26 points 1 day ago
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