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The guy literally mentioned every single piece of publicly available 'evidence' in this one weird 'exchange'.
Whaaaat? Utah pigs would never fabricate evidence! 
What 22 year old fucking talks like this?? And why is he detailing his actions like he's some cartoon villain who just caught the protagonist in a trap and is explaining their grand master plan.
Yeah this is fake as fuck. I’m fully on the conspiracy theory train right now.
If the government were faking it, they would obviously try to implicate the trans roommate. This just makes them look innocent. There are absolutely 22-year-olds who talk like this online
wow, here i thought an adventurist kid w/ a screw loose who was raised on the internet would be a really clever assassin.
Ok if you're worried about your "love" maybe don't fucking murder someone and then indirectly implicate them in your crime by immediately messaging them and admitting it. Maybe skip the whole murdering part tbh. I dunno.
That sentence just comes off crazy to me. "I'm worried about you. Oh btw, let me confess all this shit so you're now obligated to snitch on me to police otherwise you're committing a pretty serious crime. I'm sure they and the media will be very normal and treat you as an innocent bystander to all this."
People talk about trauma dumping, but goddamn. This is criminal (heh) levels. I feel bad for this person.
delete this exchange
begging gen z to understand how text messaging works and to download signal or something lmao
Anything on your screen should be considered vulnerable. We need little esp32 based TOR devices or something.
yeah this shit stinks of planted evidence. this is literally no different to when they "found" that "manifesto" that was supposedly written by Luigi when they caught him
The only legit manifestos are ones found in Pastebin uploaded a few hours before the act. Everything else is just fabrication.
his confession text looks fake as fuck +1
i like how it wraps everything together and uses language typical of 50+ year old mormons that are employed by the CIA
anyway, the feds are incompetent.
This convo seems fake as fuck idk. Is he stupid? If he can manage to do an assassination that well surely he can't be stupid enough to say all this shit over text. It does read like a right-winger's idea of what a heckin woke sjw would say.
This kind of killing isn't difficult so long as there isn't much security. All he did was shoot someone with a hunting rifle and walk away. Didn't even cover his face.
bro did not put much effort into not getting caught
ditching the rifle in a bush and trying to come back for it so they don't get prints is wild levels of hopium
even if there wasn't a single security camera on this campus he'd have been caught 5 other ways...
These texts read as kinda fake but honestly its probably legit. I'm glad to not be his age in the current political climate.
real shit. the number one rule of doing crime that everyone learns as like a 10 year old is not to return to the scene of the crime
So I'm guessing he was struggling with a lot of residual guilt and shame of being raised in a conservative MAGA family, while being in a relationship with a transitioning partner, and it negatively effected his sense of self-worth. Probably just went "fuck it" when he found out the worlds most obnoxious conservative twit was going to visit.
Fuck.
The facts are he was allegedly bi, dating a trans person, killed Kirk for his hate, his family will corroborate he was a "loony leftist" and blame the internet and college most likely for taking their best attempt at raising a chud and turning him into the person he ended up as who disagreed with them on politics. Given he didn't go on any rants about Jews or anything like that (the only other option being thinking Kirk hated white people for not being against the Jews enough) I think the chances are near zero he wasn't just a liberal or vaguely left type person. Probably didn't really have anything super concrete himself in terms of political ideology other than not wanting to be his parents, not agreeing with his parents and MAGA, etc which is good enough to call him a liberal/leftist unfortunately.
Nothing else really matters. This is the cold, hard, damning evidence the right needs to paint this as an assassination by a leftist. I guess we can be thankful he wasn't a member of a communist party and it seems unlikely he organized with antifa or other groups, and he didn't post a ton of overtly leftist political stuff for them to show around but he'll be painted as antifa anyways (the anti-fascist song inscription on the bullet seals that) and this will be used as an example of liberal/left "intolerance" and violence against the "totally peaceable" right.
All these attempts at nuance are not strong enough and take too much thought and good faith. The right will be able to successfully blast out that he was a radicalized liberal-leftist who hated conservatives, was part of some imagined by the right "violent trans" agenda or movement they're trying to conjure up. The likely interviews from his family where the ridiculous hogs bray about how he was a radical and changed from a good little chudlet into a crazed leftist (as defined by Fox News) will be blasted around likely by all the usual bourgeois press. The liberal conclusion will be we need to tackle "online radicalization no matter what ideology" and the right will take that and run with it to force censorship of the left on major platforms, force major platforms to feed more automated reporting data on anyone talking in too leftist a manner to the police state priority flagged, etc.
Considering what we've already heard of discord pro-actively giving police info on people buying t-shirts and cops calling them in a chilling effects way it's concerning. And explains why they're harping on the online angle so much because that's seemingly the goal here.
This is the cold, hard, damning evidence the right needs to paint this as an assassination by a leftist
They were already painting it as an assassination by a leftist minutes after he was shot and would have continued to do so no matter how much the evidence proved otherwise. The truth does not matter to these people.
You're right though, they're gonna make shit as nasty as they can. The fascist takeover is accelerating.
How on earth you use a pretty unique and easily recognizable rifle that you left behind on the scene of the crime and think that you can hide and die of old age?
That's what one week of planning gets you.
Some hate can't be negotiated out.
Very admirable motivations. But this is simply the most dangerous thing you could do to your roommate and every trans person in the country. I wish these people could think for a second.
Yeah….bull fucking shit. Too fucking convenient.
Seeing it now on the nypost: TRANS LOVER DRIVES INNOCENT BOY TO HATRED
That's quite damming. Confessed to his partner, with all the details and everything.
Thanks for posting this with the screenshots.
Also there's no way this is a groyper or anyone remotely on the right. As usual, Bluesky and Reddit were completely wrong. Honestly as a rule of thumb, whatever Bluesky says, the opposite is most likely true. Still remember when Bluesky were saying that Kamala Harris was going to win the election off of a single outlier poll from Iowa. Or that Trump wasn't actually shot, or that he was dead last week. Bunch of "liberal Alex Jones" level conspiracy theorists. Also a lesson not to accept what one finds ideologically validating as true, facts first before that. Got so much nonsense for calling out this stuff, again.
uhhhh, he doesn't write with the same cadence as he did in those discord leaks, why is he writing like a boarding school GenXer?
Okay, he's at least a little bit libbed up. Says Charlie Kirk spreads hate, cares about a trans person, says his dad is diehard MAGA. A groyper would only possibly say "diehard MAGA" in the context of complaining about people that won't abandon the republican party and embrace Hitlerism, not in the context of thinking maybe his dad won't approve of him shooting a right wing propagandist. I'm also appalled at the idea of discussing this over text messages which cops can probably literally just do a search on. Maybe it's not quite that easy but they are not private. Computer security people do not like using 2fa over text messages because they're not secure.
For the right, there's not much difference between libbed up and communist. It would have been nice to pin it on groypers but that seems extremely unlikely now.
Nah, Groypers are 100% on that "Greco-Roman" loverboy train, it's not gay if you're a top, they really believe that, just look up Fuente's rant about how having sex with women "is gay"
Does anyone else find it strange there are no timestamps? This conversation looks like it was typed up in a random text editor. And the supposed roommate's response make me wonder if this is the first time they saw these texts.
This just made me really sad. If this is indeed accurate he really did mess up his trans partner's life for a long time. How do you even begin to pick up the pieces from this when things finally settle? I thought I would feel nothing but joy, but turns out there is a way to make me wish this was undone. If you're gonna do something like this, then burn all your bridges and disappear for a while first. Don't drag a trans person down with you (even if this is what motivates you).
If they get out of this unscathed it's a pretty good argument for a sealed name change at least.
