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[–] ColonelMustard@lemmy.world 4 points 32 minutes ago

Hire smarter employees.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 9 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Man, this isn't even "doing your research" it's just knowing what very basic words mean.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 5 points 49 minutes ago (1 children)

I bet a coworker $20 that "tariff" and "tax" were synonyms. Motherfucker refused to pay up, calling merriam-webster.com, thesauraus.com, wikipedia etc. "fake news".

[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 2 points 44 minutes ago

I would've made you pay him. Every tariff is a tax but not every tax is a tariff. Of course your actual point still stands.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 minutes ago* (last edited 10 minutes ago)

Of course the employee is wrong, but the OOP isn't tackling the argument in a really productive way. There's an opportunity to meet the employee where they are.

People caught in the right wing noise machine always seem to understand that businesses pass on business taxes to the consumer. So, if other countries were paying the tariffs, why wouldn't they pass those costs on?

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 10 points 1 hour ago

Isn't this the same debate as to how one country can (or cannot) force another country to pay for a random construction project that isn't in anyones interest (that wall)?

It's not like the concept is beyond (basically, 99.9+%) anyones cognitive abilities. It's just how ads (the science behind it is plentiful, it's a giant business sector) work on human brains.

[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 59 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

The OP is battling against what Faux Newz, Dipshit Donnie, and other right-wing propagandist shitrags are telling his employee, all which the employee takes as indesputable truth. If he can override that much brainwashing he can convince anyone of anything.

[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 hours ago

But the guys in OP, they don't turn on daddy Trump. It can't be that they were lied to, then they'd have to do something alien to them like introspection. No, it must be...an honest mistake? Honestly have no idea how they'd justify it internally.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 3 hours ago

"The Big Lie" is what Sanders is calling it.

[–] WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 5 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

How does the saying about selling a lie go?

[–] jagermo@feddit.org 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Well, a lie can be half around the world before the truth even has its boots on.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 points 48 minutes ago

That's because the lie's boots have already been licked clean.

Three liars makes a tiger

[–] nul9o9@lemmy.world 77 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Or, we can hold the fucking media accountable for telling blatant lies about the impacts of tariffs.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 10 points 2 hours ago

Fox News got around that by claiming they're entertainment, not news.

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 19 points 4 hours ago

Ignorance is not an excuse. Fire all MAGAs for taxifs.

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 30 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

To be fair, economics is not intuitive. Half of it is built out of unicorn dust and human imagination. How else would bitcoin even exist? For those of you who are economists and love the money side, vs the behavioral side, that’s great, we need people like you to explain it to the rest of us.

I work with a real system that will still exist no matter what happens with politics or money, so it takes work, for me. That said, tariffs and inflation are not difficult concepts provided you simply take the time to learn.

I know someone who lost their job in December due to tariffs anticipation, and they were not alone in that group of layoffs. The effects are there even if you fail to learn the reasons.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago

For extra sad - what is economical is more intuitive bcs it's not just a human skill, it's a skill nature forces all species into in one way or the other.
'Economics' (the human science) however adds so many extra steps, scales, and logistics that is def not immediately intuitive (even in the simple cases when it is).

In both cases there is a certain element of future uncertainty so risk management is essential.

[–] some_dude@lemm.ee 11 points 3 hours ago

I'm of average intelligence so if I can understand it, so can they.

[–] Tramort@programming.dev 5 points 2 hours ago

It's not that complicated that when a company with thin margins has to pay a tax, they have to pay it on to consumers.

Your finance department doesn't care about the difference between a more expensive part due to scarcity vs a more expensive part due to a tax.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 57 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

and every one of the millions who ~~were~~are just as dumb, will forget the lessons learned well before the next election and vote for it all over again.

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 hour ago

nice of you to assume there's gonna be a NEXT election.

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 22 points 3 hours ago

...next election?

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 16 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Some people are just dumb. It doesn't help that our education system is designed to produce worker bees and not educated citizens.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Worker bees don't even get to have sex with the queen-president!! :'''(

Are the male bee drones the cabinet circle?

[–] Goun@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I don't understand how they think this works

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 21 points 3 hours ago

A lot of them think that the country with the tarrifs levied against them needs to pay the country they are exporting to to sell the goods there like a "If you want to do business here" tax on the country exporting.

But in all honesty even if it did work that way, the exporting country would just jack the prices up to cover it. The end result for US citizens would be the same.