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[–] Elkot@lemmy.world 2 points 3 minutes ago

Loadsa Yanks in Edinburgh

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 hours ago

Emotional, fucking, damage.

[–] sharetload@aussie.zone 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Come to Australia! If you’re on the west coast of America, it’s not even that ridiculous a journey. It’s quite like America in lots of good ways, and less so in the insane, gun-toting ways. (Lots of idiot-trucks still, though 😞)

[–] fossilesque@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 hours ago

You guys are gutting funding, unfortunately.

[–] F_OFF_Reddit@lemmy.world 45 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

This is amazing for us in Europe, bring all the educated ones and leave the Trumpers there

Fully onboard with this, welcome to Spain amigo.

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

well to some of us americans, who can’t leave, this is horrible… but logical….
the last thing i want is all the reasonable people to leave, and be stuck with these fuxks….

i kinda wonder now, how much did people fleeing nazi germany contributed to them solidifying power?

[–] parrhesia@sh.itjust.works 15 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It's kinda funny, this is what Texas did to Oklahoma in regards to our teachers. Put up billboards saying that they paid more in Texas. It's depressing but it worked lol.

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

oklahoma wasn’t great before that, but at least it was OK…

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[–] fossilesque@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 22 hours ago

The world is looking to China too, their sciences are blossoming. Exciting times ahead while Americans decide who they are and want to be and eventually go through their own Enlightenment. Things are bad now, but tyrants always fall eventually. I think we are entering a sort of golden age for science.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 6 points 16 hours ago

Yeah brain drain isn't as cool when it happens here, is it?

[–] Zink@programming.dev 20 points 20 hours ago

This feels sad on the surface, as an American who went to college 25 years ago and is used to seeing people from around the world move here to learn, teach, start businesses, etc.

But giving it any real thought, damn it, it is much better for humanity this way. Climate change isn’t going to pause while the world watches us collapse.

[–] Bunbury@feddit.nl 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And as far as I’ve seen the numbers it’s working too. Anywhere in Europe that is academic or sciency is seeing record numbers of Americans applying. The brain drain will be real.

[–] edryd@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

It has already been happening for several years now, it's just accelerated since Trump. Even before his first term there was a "negative brain drain" of educated workers no longer coming into the US because the benefits (paid time off, health care, etc) are so much worse compared to other countries, even when considering the higher pay. America used to rely on a steady stream of incoming highly educated workers.

But now there is a huge amount of well established academics leaving for Canada, EU, or anywhere else that will pay them. I work in a physics department at a large R1 university in a very liberal state, and we are losing 4 (that I know of) high regarded professors just this year alone moving to other countries.

The brain drain is here, and won't be reversing course even if Trump suddenly disappears. We would have to completely change how we reward work and our failing healthcare system for anything to change.

[–] Bunbury@feddit.nl 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Makes sense. This is doing decades of damage. Plenty of past groundbreaking research came out of the US. But I get it. I wouldn’t want to move to the US either for very much the same reasons. Lack of affordable healthcare, lack of paid holidays and gun safety would be the main reasons. Lack of food regulation would also be a concern. And now the current regime and the way too large chunk of the population that still seems happy with it means we put even tourist travel plans to the US on hold. Too scary at the moment. Trying to help the best I can from here, but there’s only so much you can do at a distance.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

It's already happened in Florida and Idaho at least, Idaho lost a huge amount of medical professionals thanks to RvW and state passed open ended and vague laws. Florida lost just about all their teachers DeSantis is stuffing schools with sycophants with little to no education and no teaching credentials. We're already losing.

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[–] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My daughter is about 2 years from graduating high school, and even before Trump came into office I was urging her to consider non-US colleges. Mostly because she wants to go into medicine and our healthcare system has been broken for much longer than I can remember. But also the rise of Fox News (and others) getting away with stating provable lies as fact, Joe Rogan, et al. showed that there has been an inflection point and the country is being led around by the dumbest of us.

She's fluent in Spanish, though jumping straight into a medical program would introduce a lot of new specialized words, and might be to much. We're starting to look into options though.

[–] fossilesque@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

College introduces a lot of new words in general. It is what it's for, plus, she will be in pre-med. Go for the Spanish route. She will flourish. :) Spain is so lovely. I hope I can land something there next.

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[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Medical English is largely stripped-down Latin, I wonder how similar medical Spanish is

[–] captain_oni@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The technical terms are very similar. The only issue would be the colloquial terms.

We interact with people from numerous Spanish speaking countries as part of an intern program, and the one thing every new group says is how funny each other's slang sounds to the rest of the group. She might have a rough month or two, but then I think it would be fairly smooth after that.

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[–] Ravi@feddit.org 76 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Come to Germany! We do everything like the US, but with a 4 year delay and 10% less intense! Relive your memories of when your homeland went down the drain!

[–] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

I feel like the 4 year delay is gonna hit it's threshold and start surpassing the US. Maybe I'm wrong but I feel like Germany has the populous to shift very quickly. Now that the US is full Fascism I feel like Germany just got the acceleration card equipped. Which will also influence the rest of the west and Americans to hit the "kill all Muslims" button as hard as they can.

Starting with "Hamas/Palestine/Antisemitism" as the justification.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I still have the hope that people see the trainwreck the US is now and go "oh shit", and try to avoid it

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The reaction to Brexit in the rest of the EU - where almost from one month to the next people's support for the idea of leaving the EU crashed to less than half as much as shown in various polls at the time - gives me hope that what Trump is doing in America is actually crushing the chances of his ideology in the rest of the World.

This seems to already be happenning in Canada (we will know for sure once the result of their upcoming elections is out).

In summary, I think there is good reason to hope that the result in the rest of the World of the Fascist Far-Right taking over a high-profile country like the US will be either the crushing of the Far-Right or it very explicitly distancing itself from the kind of ideology espoused by Trump - in other words, that America, just like Britan with Brexit, is really and unwittingly taking one for the rest of us.

[–] cabinet_sanchez@midwest.social 18 points 1 day ago (5 children)

As a pretty terrified American, I actually take some comfort in this idea. Please learn from us. I just hope if things get that far here, that the rest of you will have some empathy for those of us who did not want this. So many comments from people in other countries are blaming every American for this. Seeing so many of those comments (mostly on Reddit) has been the second scariest part of all of this for me. I'm used to being hated in the abstract for being an American, but to think that if the fascists here get their way people like me have no hope of escape is too much to think about

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[–] Lumbardo@reddthat.com 3 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

It is not secret that the US has attracted talented academics for many years. I am sure that these kinds of advertisements are not new.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Lumbardo@reddthat.com 1 points 26 minutes ago

Yes. People conducting cutting-edge research should receive suitable compensation. Don't see a problem with that.

[–] sroos@lemm.ee 1 points 10 hours ago

I'm sure they're not.
I'm also pretty sure that they're working a lot better now than they were before...

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[–] socsa@piefed.social 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It low-key reads like one of those "lonely singles in your area" ads.

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[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 8 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

We have quite a shortage of doctors and other medical professionals in Slovenija. Come on over, guys!

ETA: and professors to teach at the medical university.

[–] fossilesque@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 22 hours ago

Most countries welcome medical professionals with open arms. They are always shortlisted. ;)

PS: I love Slovenija, it is so pretty. I reccomend it too!

[–] TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

How much is med school there and are older people welcomed into the schools? I had to drop my premed program here in the US because I either need to be a med student for rural America ... which can get fucked imo or pay a million to stay in "progressive" cities.

[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 1 points 1 hour ago

Oof, I don't know about that. It's very difficult even for regular students from other EU countries to get in. There are so few spots opened that they are very strict with the criteria plus domestic students are preferred.

[–] TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works 5 points 20 hours ago

This thread gives me hope. Last Trump presidency Marcon told scientists to move to France. I was like... I hear you. Added 56 credit hours of math and science to my writing degree. Now I'm ready to do bioinformatics or something health data related not in the US.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Actual free market at work, as opposed to the shit we have in the U.S.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 54 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is this why Elon is pushing for anti-immigration parties in the EU? He doesn't want people to leave?

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 1 day ago

Of course he doesn't want people to leave, how can he be king if all his serfs leave?

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