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[–] Kwakigra@beehaw.org 3 points 38 minutes ago

This pen was decades ahead of its time. Made as cheaply as possible, just functional enough, disposable, and replaceable is the new standard for US commodities.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 27 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Why fix what's cheap and barely does its job?

[–] jonsnothere@beehaw.org 12 points 3 hours ago

They've made more than 10 of these per human on the planet.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

It is broke though. Thing is shit. Dries up the nib, smudges, spurts. All round bad design

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 1 points 47 minutes ago

The nub drying is the no. 1 Problem with the thing. The amount of pens thrown away due to that problem is probably uncountable.

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

And yet people still buy them.

[–] KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It does what it needs to, albeit poorly, for a handful of cents per pen. Once you start viewing them as disposable instead of trying to keep them until they're out of ink, it makes more sense.

These are the pens put out where they're going to get lost or taken, pocketed by the general public. I'd say their biggest flaw is that they don't work on hard surfaces, so they suck for signing receipts on counters.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

About the only thing they are good for is carbon copy paper. You have to press hard to make it work, and better pens tend not to like being pressed hard.

It's also a use case that's almost dead. Writing checks is a rarity, and most people only come across the odd contract like that once every few years, at best.

[–] Daerun@lemmy.world 48 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

They were actually updated in mid 90s when they made the cap have a hole in it.

[–] IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world 12 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

What was the idea behind the drastic change?

[–] shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works 40 points 5 hours ago

To prevent choking if it gets swallowed.

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

it's been 74 years that guy can retire now

[–] M1nds3nd@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 hours ago

In this economy?

[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 hours ago

At least take a potty break, ffs!

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

He had to have an operation 30 years ago and now is medically bankrupt and can't retire

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

ah ok makes sense

[–] Alpha71@lemmy.world 28 points 9 hours ago

Why mess with perfection?

[–] spacesatan@leminal.space 21 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (4 children)

Ah, the extremely shitty pen that scratches so bad you might as well carve your message into the paper. Lasts maybe 3 lines before it starts skipping but who cares. It exists to be as cheap as possible so your customer you don't respect can pocket it after initialing twice and signing something.

I hate bad cheap pens so much. I never would have gotten into fountain pens if there wasn't the counter example of how bad a writing experience can get.

[–] Daerun@lemmy.world 32 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

American bics may be made in a different way because here in Spain they are so reliable they are a de facto standard for people taking an exam.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Same in Brazil. The closest competitor, Compactor, will either smudge everything or fail twice as much as Bics.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Smudging inks mean they tend not to dry as fast. The downside of less-smudgy inks is that they dry out faster in the pen, gunk it up, and make ballpoints useless.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

For filling in circles? Yeah, they're fine. The circular movement tends to keep the ball moving and picking up new ink.

For writing? Hot garbage. When I switched to nicer pens (fountain pens and OHTO graphic liners), I had to unlearn pressing down so hard and cramping up my hand. A good pen can glide across the surface with little effort, and you don't feel like you need to stretch your fingers and wrist afterward.

[–] Daerun@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

1-School and college exams in Europe are most usually in "write everything you know" mode.

2-You are clearly talking about some non-bic branded pens.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 2 hours ago

Yeah, no. People who like pens don't touch Bic.

[–] BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Fountain pens are the best. I got a Hero 616 off AliExpress for $0.36 on sale one time, and even that is better than a BIC. And my gold nib pens make BICs feel like I'm chiseling cuniform into stone tablets.

[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

As a child I was labeled a bad writer because my writing was so sloppy it made a doctor's prescription look like typed text. I'd always choose a pencil over a pen. Then in college a friend let me use their nice pen and I could write so much better. Turns out I was just always using the cheapest pens possible, and that sometimes quality does come at a cost worth paying.

[–] BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

I had a similar experience. And my hand always cramped up because I was putting a death grip on those cheap, skinny pens. Now, my wife has me fill out all the cards and gift tags at the holidays because I have "nice, fancy handwriting." What a difference comfort, control, and fluidity make. I really enjoy slightly fatter pens, like a vintage Sheaffer's oversized. Or a Platinum 3776. Not as big as a Montblanc 149, or a Wing Sung 630. Just a little on the chubby side. Way less cramping.

[–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 17 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

I think actual Bic-from-the-Bic-Company biros tend to be pretty good (especially the orange ones with black lids).

For a truly scratchy experience, you need a cheap, unbranded biro.

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[–] juliebean@lemm.ee 74 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

honestly, kinda refreshing to see a business not changing their shit constantly just to change shit. it's not the nicest pen, but it works.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

likewise, the uniball eco pen is the perfect pen for lefties.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Why does handedness matter?

[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 18 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] DigitalNirvana@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

Now I need a BIC boat to put my BIC pens and razors in.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 20 points 12 hours ago

Still tastes great

[–] hark@lemmy.world 33 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

What? No app connectivity?!

[–] Trabic@lemm.ee 14 points 12 hours ago

However will they drive engagement?

[–] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 153 points 18 hours ago (13 children)

A hole was added to the cap in 1991.

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