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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 85 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

I don't argue with people, I slowly explain to them what Republicans lawmakers are doing. Try as hard as possible not to be conescending.

I explain how Biden and Obama are better at convicting and deporting, why Trump's cruelty is so innefficient.

I explain that Trump said he had nothing to do with project 2025 and now Matt Walsh and Fox News are explaining their plans which coincidentally align with project 2025.

I explain the Trump Tax Plan, which is identical to last time, how it raised everybody's taxes below a certain amount.

Sometimes they tell me "but that Harris was an idjet" and I explain how she wanted to bring back child tax credits and vowed to never raise taxes on anyone below 400k annual earnings. They ask "well she didnt say that during the CNN Interview or debates!" and I direct them to her website where every single policy is laid out clearly.

Many of them do not understand the brevity of the situation they have caused. They are completely unaware of the consequences of their actions, expect life to go on as if their side just won at sports without any impact on the real world. It is easy to ignore and be ignored if thats what you want to do in a red state.

When people try to threaten me I can be very intimidating as a result of my natural physique. Fear is something I will die before showing any of these people. They respect strength, the simple fools, it can get you far in their world.

That's how I do.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Trump's cruelty is so innefficient

the cruelty is the point. he "hurts the right people"

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Rigjt but thats contradictory. They claim to want to do something about supposed "hordes of criminal illegals" but at the same time they shift resources away from them and instead detain women, the elderly, and children.

[–] MadBabs@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

The cognitive dissonance is also the point...

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[–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 60 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Married het cis male. Wife is absolutely bent out of shape due to our states bull shit abortion ban and with Trump being in office again. We had been talking about a second kiddo... But she told me that she wanted me to get a vasectomy Monday morning at 8am. She's not leaving her life in the hands of old dudes.

So.. I'm going to schedule it for inauguration day .

Other than that.. okay. Tho.. I did buy another carry gun. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

Edit: voted Dem all the way down ballot.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 47 points 2 months ago (2 children)

voted Dem all the way down ballot.

As if you even need to say this when you began with proper use of cis and het

[–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 months ago

Haha that's fair

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[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Ah man, I should buy a gun.

[–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Go far enough left... You get your guns back.

Liberal gun owners sub on reddit used to be decent.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I've never been against self defense personally, but never felt I needed one previously.

[–] ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Literally just bought a gun safe. Plan on getting a shotgun in the next month for black Friday. Gotta protect yourself.

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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

So… I’m going to schedule it for inauguration day .

Go get it Monday if you aren't opposed to it. No reason to wait and risk pregnancy being a couple weeks along on inauguration day.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 50 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Feeling depressed, trapped, and abandoned. Going through the motions, trying to come to terms that I won't be a dad because the wife doesn't want to risk a pregnancy under the conditions, and I won't be a homeowner because no ones coming to help build houses or stop corporate real estate. I won't start a business because I can't risk losing healthcare, and will need every dollar I can hang on to. Settling for serfdom. You know, usual shit.

How are you.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago

Had to soak last week’s shirts due to anxiety sweats but this week will probably be lighter on the poor things. So, slightly worse than usual.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I feel you...I still can't believe this country is so ..... ignorant of the consequences of this. It's over

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 44 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Pretty shit. Came out of the closet as trans to my parents just before the election after hiding dysphoria for nearly 20yrs (I'm 30). Unfortunately, the dysphoria has been intense enough that I'm so dissociated that I can barely function, so as you might imagine, I'm currently living with parents.

My dad's reaction was basically, "whoever the best you is, be that you".

My mom's reaction was "but you're my son... I always wanted to have a brother and you're kinda like that".

Meanwhile my grandparents voted for Trump after saying they wouldn't, and are now crying about it. Literally. My grandmother was in tears.

So my mom is also dealing with that, and possibly osteoporosis, which meant she said, "it's gonna take time to process this".

Then last night she told me that I wasn't allowed to start hrt until I moved out.

She refuses to let me tell her why I can barely function. She refuses to let me describe what I'm going through. She says she "can't handle it", that "it's not a top priority right now", that she's "trying to understand" why I've made this "choice" while also telling me things like "but I like you the way you are" and rejecting any information I send to her because she'd rather consult her friends that she "trusts more".

She starts to have a panic attack whenever I try to talk to her about it and God forbid I tell her that she made a mistake because then I obviously hate her guts and want her to die. She's literally accused me of that.

It hurts like hell but I don't know how to get out of this situation. I don't know how long it'll take hrt and therapy to get me on my feet all while not having a job. All this while in Texas. I'm fucking scared.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That’s horrible that you’re having to go through that. I honesty can’t imagine. But from one “Feathers” to another, that took a hell of a lot of courage.

I sincerely hope things get so much better for you!

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 4 points 2 months ago

Thanks. It wasn't the reaction I was expecting, kinda the opposite. My dad's the one who had sisters and only nieces on his side of the family, so I was expecting him to be the one with hang-ups about it. Nope, it was my mom. What I was hoping for was support for a little while longer until I felt like I could live on my own, but it sounds like that's not gonna happen. My biggest frustration is not coming out sooner tbh. Woulda given me more time to make plans and meant that maybe I could have skipped years of feeling like a lazy, freeloading piece of shit (no, they never called me that, but that doesn't stop me from feeling like it).

[–] ceramicsky@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sorry you’re going through this. But I’m proud of you for coming out!

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 5 points 2 months ago

Thanks, it really sucks. I didn't expect the reaction I got. I kinda expected my dad to be the one who got upset while my mom was supportive, not the opposite. My dad was the one who had two sisters and only nieces on his side of the family, so I kinda expected he was gonna be the one upset by it; but he's cool with it.

It also blew me away to hear that my grandparents voted for Trump after years of talking about how much they regretted voting for him in 2016 and how they'd never vote for him again. Guess I'm never coming out to them; not that I was totally expecting to due to their age, but it'll be fun coming up with a reason why moving out means I'm forced to move across the country and possibly never come back (at least probably not while they're still living).

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago
[–] Today@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

I'm in Texas in a blue bubble - more than i had realized i guess. 80% of the people i know are blue. I work in public education, so most of the red people i know were considering voting blue because of the push for school vouchers. I rarely see maga stuff and the yard signs around me were 80% Harris. Because of that i was completely shocked last Tuesday by the popular vote and it's left me kind of disoriented. My husband works in redville, so he's disgusted and exhausted. My adult sons are sad, mad, scared. My DIL has called me crying a few times - her parents are trumpsters and she wants to cut them out. Luckily we have enough cash on hand to help the kids get passports ASAP and enough savings to briefly go out of state/country if she needs healthcare. I 70% believe that Republican infighting will slow them down and it won't be as bad as feared, 30% ready for the leopards!

[–] radix@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

Pro: a handful of my state's absolute worst officials are set to quit their jobs and we get a do-over.

Con: they're quitting to join the administration and they'll be way more powerful and everyone else will suffer.

Sorry. I did what I could.

[–] CumWeedPoop@lemmynsfw.com 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Meh. I want to try to move to Minnesota some day. Seems like a nice place. They have laws preventing employers from firing people over off-premise off-duty marijuana use. That just sounds worth doing even if the higher paying jobs are otherwise abusive and shitty. I have 2 degrees in tech.

and before this comment chain turns into a dumpster fire, I have no desire to work while high. I just wanna smoke weed at home, that's it.

[–] vivavideri@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I grew up in a progressive city in a gerrymandered-to-hell swing state. Cheeto's first win promptly sent me into a tailspin there. I've moved a handful since but now find myself in MT 80 miles from the border, you know, just in case.

Red up here is different than red down there. There it was like rubbing salt in the wound, here it's quite obviously because there aren't enough people to know any different.

I'm nonbinary and have been laid off in Florida about it, so I no longer disclose that information professionally. It's not the most pleasant, but hey, hiding in plain sight is a really good way to see what's coming down the pike.

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I developed a pretty strong sense of apathy for most of the people around me, who either won't vote or vote for whatever Fox News tells them too.

That being said, I'm fearful for the friends I have that feel they will need to hide who they are just to go about their lives.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Man I feel you there. The apathy is real. I feel for those who are innocent who are really going to be hurt by this. I've stopped caring about anyone who voted for it. You're on the lower income but can't afford food? Too bad he's coming for food stamps. Bootstraps. Grandma needs Medicaid but voted red? Sorry grandma, better get a job.

For all those who truly voted to try to save these things, my heart goes out to them. The rest though, it's going to be painful.

The ironic thing is that they did it all to own the libs. The thing is though, the vast majority of "libs" I see push for these programs for others, not themselves. But these people can't even comprehend that we want to help people and assume we want free stuff. All the while it's them that we were probably helping the most. It's absolutely asinine

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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thankful I'm privileged, white, and straight passing.

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[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Considering if I should pull out of the ACA plan (not renew) or stay in and hope they don't touch it come 2025. If they make any cuts or kill it, I will not be able to pay for the plan on my own, even a very low dollar one. Living's overrated anyway, if my health goes in the gutter after 2025, RIP me I guess.

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago

About 8 years ago, I moved from the red state I was born to a progressive city. I let my daughter serve her first year of school there then said oh hell no and got the fuck out.

Just remember rule number 1: Get hired first, then move

[–] beliquititious@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Most of all, lonely. My situation is rough. I'm a trans woman (some passing privilege), almost 40, and staying with center-right family in East Texas because I haven't been able to work in two years due to mental illness. I have a very difficult time making and keep friends and the family I'm staying with doesn't understand why I'm upset, doesn't care, and think I'm overreacting (They are superficially supportive about me being trans, but also voted for this). I was going to therapy for a while, but I had to discontinue it because I couldn't afford it any more. The only thing keeping me going is that for the last few years I've been able to feel more comfortable in my own skin, thanks to HRT.

I really don't want to go through whatever the Republicans have in store for trans people in red states alone. The thing I am most afraid of is them banning HRT for adults (it's already banned for kids). I've been on e since 2018. If everything were going great for me losing access to my medication would be a horrifying and soul crushing ordeal, I doubt I'll survive it with how my life is now.

This last week I've been almost completely non-functional. I've been alternating between uncontrollable sobbing, hours long panic attacks, furious rage, and making half-crazed, poorly thought out Lemmy and Reddit comments.

tl;dr: not great.

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[–] i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 months ago

Disappointed but not surprised. Joining forces with like minded people. Doing the best I can do.

[–] Arcynic@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

More scared for my friends in other red states since I'm cishet and look like I blend in with maga. I've felt isolated ever since I moved to ArKansas at the end of 2019. I have no friends in this state outside of the household. I am too scared to attempt organizing, wouldn't even know where to look or how to approach such a thing. This whole thing is terrifying, infuriating, confusing, and exhausting, and I know it's only going to get so very much worse.

[–] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.one 5 points 2 months ago

It’s aight.

I knew which color my state went. It aint gonna change soon.

[–] stinerman@midwest.social 4 points 2 months ago

We'll see if I go back to the mental hospital but I don't foresee it happening unless work gets really bad again.

I've already internalized that this country is populated by shitty, hateful people. Trump winning again just confirms what I already knew.

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