krashmo

You're presenting additional nuance as if it disproves what I'm saying and it doesn't. I understand that overcomimg any addiction is more difficult than saying "I'm going to stop this behavior". However, any approach you decide to take is fundamentally just breaking down that ultimate goal into practical steps. I've repeatedly said I agree that there are usually more steps involved but you seem categorically opposed to agreeing that changing your behavior is the goal of any addiction treatment and that seems like a you problem more than a problem with anything that I'm saying.

Of course it is. Do you think "misogyny exists in real life" is a novel idea to anyone old enough to know what that word means? You can't opt out of being exposed to it in real life though so unless you're proposing suicide as a solution I'm not sure how that's related to what we're discussing. Dumbass.

If you just say "stop using this thing you like" without an actual motivation behind it, you won't have any more success than if you put a pack of cigarettes on the kitchen counter of a smoker and say "Don't you smoke these! It's bad for you!"

First of all, it doesn't sound like these people actually like these platforms. The article in the OP is about a girl describing the pervasive abuse she experiences while using them. I don't think it's unreasonable to say in response "you're clearly not enjoying this so just stop doing it". Second, that is fundamentally sound advice to both this girl and the person smoking in your analogy. The fact that both might be hard habits to break doesn't make the solution any less simple. Simple != easy.

you're ignoring the massive wall of incentive pushed on people by capital forces to use the largest, most commercially active platforms

No I'm not. I specifically called that out in my response. As I said, avoiding them as the solution may not be easy but it is simple in concept. Maintaining your health in all forms is hard to do but the steps to follow are not complex.

I can't really follow what your imagined argument is about

I have seen people in this thread and others use that argument as a way to sidestep the conversation at hand and pivot to something more juvenile and uninteresting. I added it to head off that line of thinking and prevent this from trending in a pointless direction. If you weren't about to say something like that then feel free to ignore it but I wanted to make it clear I'm not interested in going down that path with you or anyone else reading the thread and considering replying.

Dead men don't rape people

This isn't realistic to tell a kid who uses social media

Sure it is, you just don't like the answer. Which is strange coming from someone who is presumably on Lemmy because they didn't like the way reddit was conducting business and decided to leave. You moved to a competing service, it's also an option to just not use those types of social media at all.

This thread has real orphan-crushing-machine vibes to it. Many just take for granted that of course kids have to use social media. They don't and neither do you. It's not the path of least resistance but why would you expect taking care of yourself to be easy in a society designed to do everything possible to beat you into submission and extract value from the lifeless husk that remains?

"But but Lemmy is social media and you participate here. Curious."

No, not in the same way that Instagram and the rest are. Pseudo-anonymous forums are fundamentally different both in the way people interact with one another and in the types of content they tend to generate.

Seems more likely to be effective than waiting on the government to hold itself accountable

Maybe. Is that worse than what they're already doing? You can't get rid of a militarized violent organization without bloodshed. I don't know what the right course of action is.

Hopefully one of them succeeds before too long

Three screens is bad enough but at least give them headphones. That is ridiculous.

There can be multiple reasons for screens at restaurants

I've never heard a good one except from parents who have children with some kind of severe handicap. I know exactly what it's like to go to a restaurant with children of all ages and for almost everyone screens are not required, acting like a parent is. You can tell the difference.

when you say you see kids glued to screens every time you go out, are you sure you don't see any who aren't?

Yes I'm sure.

Every time I go out to eat I see kids of all ages with their faces glued to a screen of some kind while mom and dad eat. Is that a last resort? It looks to me like laziness and a lack of engagement.

A ton. Where have you been the last 20 years?