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[-] Arekdirithe@lemmy.world 120 points 9 months ago

I remember when I was younger, having low unemployment was considered a good thing, universally desired it seemed. Only in late stage capitalism is it a requirement that we have people who can’t find a job so the working class doesn’t get too uppity.

[-] NateNate60@lemmy.ml 38 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Reactionary take in response to billionaires being put in their place by a working class that is gaining back the union culture of the 20th century and pro-labour fervour of the 19th, assisted by the technology of the 21st.

[-] squiblet@kbin.social 31 points 9 months ago

More people are supposed to not have jobs, but at the same time, not be collecting unemployment or public assistance. So basically… go panhandle, live in a tent city, go to prison, or I guess just die is their suggestion.

[-] MonkRome@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago

If they died or went to prison then unemployment would go back down. The truth is they have no intelligent solutions and their economic beliefs are all make believe.

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[-] stilgar@infosec.pub 19 points 9 months ago

This effect was analysed in great detail by Marx in the 19th century, so it's not a characteristic of late stage capitalism, just of capitalism.

His term "Reserve army of labour" refers to the unemployed.

Taking them as a whole, the general movements of wages are exclusively regulated by the expansion and contraction of the industrial reserve army...

From Capital by Marx

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserve_army_of_labour

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[-] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 81 points 9 months ago

Someone should unemploy him, you know, to help his numbers.

[-] OGKludge@lemmy.world 77 points 9 months ago
[-] SuperSpaceFan@lemm.ee 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You said it before I could...Thank you.

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[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 59 points 9 months ago

Unemployment has to jump 40 to 50 percent, in my view. We need to see some pain in the economy. We need to remind people that they work for the employer, not the other way around

What a fucking asshole! True "we need to show those uppity peasant who's boss" energy 🤬

[-] NoNotLikeThat@lemm.ee 14 points 9 months ago

Sounds like he's mad he can't afford as many yachts.

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[-] Luvs2Spuj@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

Employee and employer work TOGETHER. I would love to meet this guy in person, real let them eat cake energy. Anyway, where's my guillotine sharpener.?

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[-] BlackNo1@lemmy.world 54 points 9 months ago

i think this guys face should meet a crowbar

[-] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago

That's a weird way to spell guillotine

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[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 49 points 9 months ago

I hope this isn't a bannable comment, but someone needs to bring out the fucking guillotine for these fucks.

[-] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 47 points 9 months ago

What is it with property developers and being brainless dicks?

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago

People having been throwing shit on plots of land since the beginning of time. It probably scratches that sweet spot of little thought and a lot of money that most people seem to be after.

[-] squiblet@kbin.social 17 points 9 months ago

“passive income!” when they talk to each other, but tons of hard work when described to anyone else.

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[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 45 points 9 months ago

We should indeed have more unemployed people, since we should strive to a world where nobody has to work anymore.

Implement Universal Basic Income.

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[-] pirrrrrrrr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 9 months ago

This is the original "stop eating smashed avocado on toast" guy.

This guy need to improve the planet by being a lot less alive.

About 100% less should do the trick.

I live in his city and I will not hesitate to tip my $6.50 latte over his narcissistic noggin, should the opportunity arise.

[-] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 9 months ago

Unemployment needs to jump 40-50%??? Is this guy seriously that utterly disconnected with reality? In Aus it’s never hit more than 12% in the last 4 decades, the economy would just collapse if unemployment got that high. It only got to 32% during the Great Depression in the US.

[-] joel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 9 months ago

That's the difference between percentage and percentage points. If the unemployment rate were 5% then a 50% increase would make it 7.5%

An increase of 50 percentage points would make it 55%

[-] correcthorsedickbatterystaple@kbin.social 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

utterly disconnected with reality

is there another way to accumulate that amount of wealth?

having said that, if unemployment is 10% and he thinks it needs to jump (and not to be 50%) then unemployment would be at 15%

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[-] Lianodel@ttrpg.network 37 points 9 months ago

"We need to see unemployment rise," he argued. "Unemployment has to jump 40 to 50 percent, in my view. We need to see some pain in the economy. We need to remind people that they work for the employer, not the other way around... There's been a systemic change where the employees feel that the employer is extremely lucky to have them, as opposed to the other way around."

You love to see it.

Also, lots of comments about guillotines here. We might get some concern trolls about that, but at the very least, it sure is a problem when a billionaire like Tim feels like he can say something so outrageous without any consequences.

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 9 months ago

Funny thing that we witnessed in Iran: Violence is not the answer until the very hour it is.

Law enforcement in Georgia are attacking mutual aid stations. They're recognizing and harassing the non-violent methods we would affect change.

And the billionaires are telling us they'd have us starve if we refuse to live as bonded servants.

This is how civil wars start.

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[-] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 37 points 9 months ago

The guillotine building industry has to jump to put these corporate dirtbags in their place

[-] vagrantprodigy@lemmy.whynotdrs.org 36 points 9 months ago

Stock market needs to go down to put arrogant Billionaire in their place.

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[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 31 points 9 months ago

We should put arrogant CEOs in their place.

[-] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 15 points 9 months ago

Preferably in front of a firing squad or in a guillotine.

[-] wokehobbit@lemmy.world 31 points 9 months ago

Can we bring out the guillotines already? Serious.

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[-] barttier@feddit.de 29 points 9 months ago

Rich people are loosing the fear of workers that was deeply ingrained in their DNA by the french. They should be afraid again. Maybe pinata economy is the most logic way to go.

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[-] keeb420@kbin.social 28 points 9 months ago

i hate these greedflation causing piece of shits. complete and total arrogance. admiral klancy said it best

[-] alienanimals@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago

Unemployed Aussies should show up at his house.

[-] beefcat@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago

Arrogant billionaire complains about having to operate in a free market. Oh the irony...

[-] MisterD@lemmy.ca 25 points 9 months ago

Billionaire has to jump....

Off a cliff

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[-] Peddlephile@lemm.ee 25 points 9 months ago

Lol. I actually read the article and it's Tim fucking Gurner.

I've got friends who work as consultants for his projects and it's more of a "do as I say" relationship. He buys up properties and then turns them into "luxury" apartments or hotels for his rich mates.

He's part of our affordable housing crisis.

And he goes on to make this statement. Good grief.

[-] vrojak@kbin.social 21 points 9 months ago

Pierre
Get the guillotine

[-] HansSlonzok@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago

as we know... good billionaire is dead billionaire

[-] pizzahoe@lemm.ee 19 points 9 months ago

These retarded rich fucks don't really understand that the only reason society is not killing them yet is because many people have a shitty job which can at least feed them. You take that away and motherfucker hungry people will revolt.

[-] ilickfrogs@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago

I really do think it's time to break out the guillotines.

[-] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

But if you consider the counter-argument, maybe arrogant billionaires need to be reminded again that the deal by which they wouldn't be dragged out of their homes and beaten senseless in front of their families was that they'd pay a living wage and deal with unions and submit to antitrust regulations

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[-] MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago

Another parasite sucking up all of our resources for itself.

[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 16 points 9 months ago

As much as I bitch about Lemmy, I am glad to be on a platform where we can openly advocate to put the aristocracy in guillotines without getting banned or otherwise punished for it.

[-] zcd@lemmy.ca 15 points 9 months ago

We should seize all his shit

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[-] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 15 points 9 months ago
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[-] Vaggumon@lemm.ee 14 points 9 months ago

Some CEOs deserve to be fired... out of a cannon... at a brick wall... covered in large spikes.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 13 points 9 months ago

Ok, lets start by labelling CEO's who don't do shit as "unemployed".

Next is every billionaire that don't pay the taxes they are owed.

[-] NewPerspective@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

Let's eat him first.

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