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[-] SkibidiToiletFanAcct@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago

The funny thing is that the more you know about missiles, the less this looks like one. I'm sure some truther has already claimed to know the model of missile used, but I'll say if this isn't a plane, it would need to be a very bespoke missile.

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[-] Grownbravy@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago

A missle is nothing more than an object forcefully propelled at a target.

So it’s both true a plane hit the pentagon as well as a missle.

smuglord

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

many people are saying this

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is some real conspiracioid shit here. Did America really need excuses to do absolutely horrid shit throughout it's history?

[-] SerLava@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is a trap just like JFK bullet trajectory minutae is a trap. CIA malfeasance is totally believable but the end results were: shooting a guy in the head and hitting buildings with planes.

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

yeah like we dropped a nuke on like 200k japanese civilians and came up with excuses after the fact, we dont really need a reason to do mass murder, we just do it

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[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

None of the countries the hijackers came from were invaded by the US. If anything, those countries are US allies. If the whole thing was completely made up by the US, wouldn't the US have fake Iranian/Afghani/Iraqi/Syrian/Libyan/Yemeni IDs instead of fake Saudi/UAE/Egyptian IDs?

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

i could see it being a cia fuckup of some kind, training terrorists and then shocked-pikachu when they use their training to blow up your shit. but yeah, if it were a fake, why wouldnt they just cover up who these guys are?

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

The important thing is the Pentagon blew up so a good thing happened

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

But they blew it up themselves probably to destroy files though

Net positive for them

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[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago

I can believe that the plane got shot down in the fields and spinner into a heroic patriotic sob story because nobody was out there to really confirm anything. But the missile striking the pentagon is just silly.

[-] LesbianLiberty@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago

Okay maybe, but like, why would they do that? The United States obviously doesn't care about it's own civilians and if it was to be that directly planned, why not just use a plane like the towers? There were people on the plane that's purported to hit the pentagon, don't they have families that can confirm they exist? Why would the US Military use this as an excuse to bomb itself, but only with a missile? What's the point and what was the benefit of a missile over just using a plane like all the other attacks that day?

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[-] Spike@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

Is the conspiracy that there were a bunch of poor African Americans living in the Pentagon so they shot a missile at it? I really don't see why they would shoot a missile at the Pentagon, and also have to fake a plane taking off with hundreds of passengers, staff, hijackers etc involved

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[-] pillow@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

a point they bring up on the trueanon episode about this is that the official story isn't that believable. the guy who supposedly flew the plane that day (hani hanjour) kept failing exams for flight school and his instructors reported him to the FAA multiple times later recalling that "he could not fly at all."

but on 9/11 he gets in an unfamiliar plane, flies it to arlington, and then executes a tight 330 degree corkscrew down thousands of feet to smash exactly into the target face of the building at 850kph

idk, something seems fishy about that

[-] SerLava@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I could teach you how to do that in 20 minutes in X-Plane 6.0

later recalling that "he could not fly at all."

The procedures and techniques necessary to safely and legally operate a commercial aircraft as well as to be considered "able to fly at all" by pilot instructors are far harder than flying into the twin towers

[-] panopticon@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago

Yeah and the actual pilots got the hard parts out of the way, of starting up the plane, navigating the airport, communicating with ATC, and taking off. "he could not fly at all" means jack shit when the goal is to crash the plane

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[-] ChapoKrautHaus@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

to be considered "able to fly at all" by pilot instructors are far harder than flying into the twin towers

But he didn't fly into the towers, he flew into the Pentagon.

A 5-story building, at ground level, while doing 850 kph in a civilian airliner, less than 20 ft above ground. On the first try.

After executing said corkscrew maneuver in an unfamiliar airplane.

[-] SerLava@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

Oh yeah thats the Pentagon guy, no that was easy too, give me 25 minutes I'm not even kidding. He just approximately landed on the building going full speed. The only hard part about actually landing is hitting a safe speed at the proper angle and not sliding off the end of the runway due to too much speed.

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[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

i mean it's not like he had to land

[-] GeorgeZBush@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

New theory: all the hijackers crashed the planes by accident

[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

I am a 9/11 radicalist, I don't believe there were any planes at all, not even holograms, and the towers and Pentagon just did that

[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

talking about 9/11 is our Shark Week

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[-] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

Ok, where'd the plane go? Surely the plane that they said hit the pentagon had to go somewhere? Or did aliens take it like mh370?

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[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 1 year ago

No missile hit the Pentagon on 9/11. It was a plane u dunce.

[-] Aryuproudomenowdaddy@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago
[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

Yeah that's the big hole (lol) in the missile theory. There was a plane that took off and disappeared.

Either it hit the Pentagon or there was some large-scale coverup of disappearing a plane, passengers, and crew, plus a missile launch and whatever coverup was necessary for that.

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[-] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's one extremely fast moving, low-flying passenger plane to be able to strike a building like that and especially to completely destroy itself without any traces of plane left from the wreckage.

It must have been one hell of a bullseye.

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

No photographic or video footage of a plane wreck near the site. All nearby footage confiscated except for this extremely grainy, 2 FPS video that the state released themselves (THAT STILL CLEARLY SHOWS A MISSILE)

CNN reports that no evidence of a plane crash near the Pentagon was found

Claimed flight path to the Pentagon has direct contradictions to the damage done

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago

THAT STILL CLEARLY SHOWS A MISSILE

it shows a collection of white pixels roughly dildo-shaped, a characteristic shared by aircraft & missiles. i don't find this very compelling, or a guy expecting to find giant airplane pieces & not. if it directly hit, wouldn't the debris be inside the building? and on fire?

the expectations of a "normal" plane crash with lots of identifiable debris rests on how the vast majority of planes don't crash directly into solid objects, except the ground, which is easier to contrast from a building.

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[-] LeninsWorldTour@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

I think the biggest problem with 9/11 conspiracies is how much less cooler they make it

[-] Esoteir@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

i support this one just because the idea that the pentagon needed to blow itself up to get rid of evidence or something when they have at least one paper shredder in that building is hilarious

it's like some sort of liberal brainworm that the dod can't normally destroy evidence and instead needed a few bad actors to set up an elaborate rube goldberg machine including disappearing an entire plane just to destroy three pieces of paper

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[-] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 1 year ago

I thought a plane crashed into the Pentagon. No?

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

That's the official story from the US state department yea

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[-] Torenico@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

WTC7 will never make sense to me, motherfucker just crumbles because of a bunch of fires and debris. Come on, I just don't buy it. That and the people who supposedly heard explosions on the towers, eh let me doubt. As for the Pentagon I don't think a cruise missile did the job but the available footage is dogshit and there's no other angles at all, still I have no doubts it was an airplane.

Regardless, I remember people back then saying that 9/11 would spawn a new era of reduced civil liberties, increased militarism, surveillance state and so on, these people were mostly leftists and disregarded as crazy. Well these "conspiracies" turned out to be true.

[-] The_Walkening@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

So this is footage of a missile at ground level going directly into the side of the Pentagon - why would the missile be at ground level when it struck? It'd need to have launched and then dived down to ground level.

[-] StThicket@reddthat.com 16 points 1 year ago

The missile was a fully fueled Boeing 757 with 64 meatbags of ballast.

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