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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 92 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Kamala: [says and does rabid zionist shit]

Chuds in the twitter comments: YOU'RE A LEFTWING LUNATIC!

Me: I hate being sober for this.

[–] BoxedFenders@hexbear.net 32 points 3 months ago

Dems know they won't win over Republican voters by sliding to the right. It's just a convenient excuse for what they were naturally inclined to do anyway.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If it's any consolation, being not sober for stretches of it does not make it better

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[–] footfaults@hexbear.net 85 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Dems had a chance to earn my vote and instead they spit in my face.

[–] catonkatonk@hexbear.net 52 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I had 1% hope, and I still feel stupid for it.

[–] footfaults@hexbear.net 45 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's perfectly fine to give someone a chance to be different, while expecting them to not change. That's not stupid.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 19 points 3 months ago

It is naive and kinda stupid when talking about bourgeois politicians if we are being honest

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[–] BoxedFenders@hexbear.net 50 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Let's face it- there was no one among the pool of Biden replacement candidates that was going to lift a finger to stop the genocide. Some quotes:

Gretchen Whitmer: “We here in Michigan condemn this vile act of terrorism,” she said during an event at a synagogue days after Hamas’s October 7 attack in Israel. “We stand with Israel. And Israel has a right to defend itself.”

In April, Whitmer was asked by CNN whether she supports a permanent ceasefire in Gaza; she skirted the question.

Gavin Newsom: “Despite the horror, what I saw and heard from the people of Israel was a profound sense of resilience. A commitment to community and common purpose, especially in these most difficult of times,” he said in a statement after his trip on October 20. “That’s the Israeli spirit. And it’s also the California spirit.”

Josh Shapiro: In April, he likened pro-Palestinian student protesters to the Ku Klux Klan. The campus protests, however, have been largely peaceful, and student leaders say accusations of anti-Semitism misrepresent their aim: to encourage their universities to divest from Israeli companies linked to the country’s human rights abuses.

“We have to query whether or not we would tolerate this if this were people dressed up in KKK outfits or KKK regalia making comments about people who are African American in our communities,” Shapiro told CNN.

Pete Buttigieg: But months later, he appeared to change his position. Asked whether he would pledge to place conditions on aid to Israel to prevent annexation, he said: “If you’re asking me to commit to withdrawing American support for Israel, the answer is no.”

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[–] Staines@hexbear.net 78 points 3 months ago

Libs furiously insisting you still have to vote for a candidate that has openly condemned you for being against genocide.

[–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 74 points 3 months ago

"unpatriotic protesters"

Straight up 1970s South African hitler-detector moment right there

[–] Gay_Tomato@hexbear.net 67 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

It sickens me to see how many "leftists" were just so desperate to finally stop caring about any of this and just go back to worshiping the Democrats.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 44 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I prefer to call them 'temporarily embarrassed liberals'

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 19 points 3 months ago

I do want to stop worrying about all this shit and get back to the grill... Only way that happens is if it stops, there's reparations, and communism finally takes hold. There will be no reprieve from hell world. agony-immense

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 57 points 3 months ago (4 children)

She has no political instincts whatsoever.

She could just sit back and disassociate herself from everything Biden has done but she's really going to go ahead and tie herself to supporting genocide before the election.

[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 44 points 3 months ago (2 children)

that record-breaking donation surge after Biden announced was only made possible by her willingness to stay the course

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 30 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Sure. Do that behind the scenes privately reassuring the donors then.

In public? Benefit from people not associating you with it all. Clean slate.

[–] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 29 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm with you. This is political malpractice. They had a unique opportunity to pivot to slightly different rhetoric that might win votes while not obligating them to anything. The undisputed heavyweight champion of meaningless word salad decided that this was the one issue where she needed to be explicit. I guess they'd rather lose than give anyone the impression that public opinion affects policy.

[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 20 points 3 months ago

look at how Israel's politicians talk about Biden for pausing one single shipment of one type of munition while giving them every other thing they want for almost a year. The money wasn't going to show up if there was any public distancing whatsoever, Zionists require absolute public devotion

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[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 57 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Burning the flag is a constitutionally, supreme court protected right. It's patriotic AF.

Keep talking kamala-coconut-tree please keep talking and show everyone the fascist you are.

Killer Kamala will replace Genocide Joe. We will protest her just as much as she has blood on her hands too.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 57 points 3 months ago

geordi-no Burning flags

geordi-yes Doing infinite genocide

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 53 points 3 months ago (1 children)

glad to know she's carrying on the mantle of trying her best to lose

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[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 53 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I hate this country

Even the unbelievably low bar of "don't support genocide" is too big of an ask

[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

when has america ever really been against genocide?

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[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 52 points 3 months ago (5 children)

The bar to win (vs Trump) is insanely low and one simple thing she has to do, and just failed to do, is yank the chain around Israel's neck.

Stop caving to the most racist, frothing at the mouth pieces of shit like Greenblatt.

You could actually counter the antisemitism from the ADL and all the liberal media by explicitly stating that Israel DOES NOT represent the views and will of all Jewish people. You could state that a huge portion of those protestors who were arrested were Jews against Israel doing genocide while hiding behind their Jewish identity and the Holocaust. I guess that requires a sliver of backbone and honesty which any American politician in her position is apparently fully incapable of even pretending to have.

But barring a total and full reversal on this rhetoric after her formal nomination (approximately 0% chance), she's going to lose the swing states like Michigan the same as Biden was losing them for the same reasons.

It's just pathetic how tone deaf and stupid liberals are. Kamala doesn't have the excuse of being 8000 years old insulated in a bubble by her family. She's just a wishy-washy political player who is surrounded at the moment by ideologically driven people giving her bad advice instead of being objective and realizing that the insane antisemitic bullshit, condemning anti-Israeli protesters as antisemites, is literally going to lose the election. Is it issue number one for racist-ass Americans across the board? No, unfortunately. But it is a big enough issue in specific states she MUST win.

From pure electoralism standpoint, this is top tier fuck territory. It's not just my own hatred for Israel either. Libs seem hyper focused on that aspect and it blinds them to the objective reality that Muslims, Arabs, Palestinians, and sympathizers with Palestinians are simply not going to vote for the president in key states. Is this really so hard to comprehend? They're not "coming around" on genocide especially when the new nominee is just continuing forward with the exact say rhetoric. The easiest thing to change, how she speaks about protesters, and she couldn't do it. So pathetic. Sad!

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 43 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Israel is an important outpost of the American Empire, it will not be discarded. They would rather lose.

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 3 months ago (3 children)

American Empire is over

"You know it, I know it, everyone knows it."

Also, I would argue, that bending to all the insane reactionaries like Bibi, Greenblatt, etc. and fully enabling and furthering genocide only guarantees and quickens the demise of Israel. If they actually cared about maintaining the outpost, they're doing exactly the opposite thing to keeping it. Allowing Palestine as a state and forcing Israel to stand down vs Iran and other regional powers would be how you keep it around... longer anyway. They're living in 1991 forever thinking the US can do literally anything it wants and support anything it wants, and actually it MUST support this because showing "weakness" would be worse than defeat. It's not 1991 though and the Zionists are hellbent on replicating the Führer bunker but on the nation state level

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[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's just pathetic how tone deaf and stupid liberals are.

It's difficult to look smart when you're paid to be stupid. They don't need to win to fundraise.

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[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 51 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Every bit as much of a massive piece of shit as Biden

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 19 points 3 months ago

Well, Biden has a Tara Reade up on her so there's that.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 51 points 3 months ago

All she had to do is keep her mouth shut on Israel-Palestine and pretend to be progressive to win back most of the uncommitted voters. The reflex to bootlick Israel is too strong

[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 50 points 3 months ago (3 children)

soypoint-1 Most progressive candidate in American history soypoint-2

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[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 43 points 3 months ago

I was wondering how long the mass delusion that she was a good candidate was going to last.

Not a great sign when you're within the margin of error to trump at the absolute peak of your honeymoon stage.

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 41 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In addition to being fucking awful, this is indistinguishable from AI. It's bland, it's predictable, it's really round peg in round hole writing. It's uninspired, lacks showmanship, and reminds me of everything I've come to despise about management.

But circling back, shout out to "violence of any kind." Illiteracy seems like a worthy trade if I never have to read bullshit like that.

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[–] batsforpeace@hexbear.net 40 points 3 months ago

another he-admit-it for the coconut praxis heads

[–] catonkatonk@hexbear.net 32 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] ICEMAN@hexbear.net 30 points 3 months ago

All they wanted to do is to applaude a convicted fellon leading a government convicted of crimes against humanity. How deploreble are you to be mad about this?

[–] mar_k@hexbear.net 28 points 3 months ago

critical support to biden for giving us a potential president who's name is easily convertible into maoist standard english

[–] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Like half of the top posts on lemmy.world are pro-kamala ones lol. kopmala.world

[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Those 5 million from AIPAC are hard at work.

[–] HexBeara@hexbear.net 24 points 3 months ago

Cool, good to know the optimism I've had about Biden dropping out was very misplaced. Guess I'm not voting now.

[–] glans@hexbear.net 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)
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[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 24 points 3 months ago

🔻🔻🔻

[–] neo@hexbear.net 23 points 3 months ago (2 children)
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[–] Annakah38@hexbear.net 20 points 3 months ago

What a dumb move. They saw that Kamala could beat Donald Trump, and they want her to throw. Democrats exist to beat the left, Republicans are the ruling party. She wants to lose.

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