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[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 43 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Israel is an important outpost of the American Empire, it will not be discarded. They would rather lose.

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 3 months ago (3 children)

American Empire is over

"You know it, I know it, everyone knows it."

Also, I would argue, that bending to all the insane reactionaries like Bibi, Greenblatt, etc. and fully enabling and furthering genocide only guarantees and quickens the demise of Israel. If they actually cared about maintaining the outpost, they're doing exactly the opposite thing to keeping it. Allowing Palestine as a state and forcing Israel to stand down vs Iran and other regional powers would be how you keep it around... longer anyway. They're living in 1991 forever thinking the US can do literally anything it wants and support anything it wants, and actually it MUST support this because showing "weakness" would be worse than defeat. It's not 1991 though and the Zionists are hellbent on replicating the Führer bunker but on the nation state level

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It is not over, but it is slowly declining. It is dangerous to underestimate enemies.

And Israel is serving its purpose well, so they don't see the need to change the approach.

[–] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 3 months ago

I don't think we're there yet. The first and most obvious indicators will be US closing it's foreign military bases, and leaving the south China sea.

[–] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 3 months ago

Yep, if they discard Isntreal, they might as well close up shop on the whole empire and it's 800+ bases.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago

Then they shall lose