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https://xcancel.com/TeamsterSOB/status/1813233768137662564

https://archive.is/Zzvlv

The C-suite long ago sold out the United States, shuttering factories in the homeland and gutting American jobs, while using the profits to push diversity, equity, and inclusion and the religion of the trans flag.

They have forged trade deals that led directly to the hemorrhaging of 4 million good jobs to China.

But as O’Brien correctly observed Monday night, that isn’t the Republican Party’s true tradition. There was a time when Republicans knew that American strength depends squarely on American workers—and their way of life: family, neighborhood, church, union hall. Ronald Reagan knew it.

China is ripping us off, and strong tariffs must be maintained and expanded.

Teamsters blaming transgender people, "DEI", and China for the suppression of the labor unions in America. Gives support to family, church, and Ronald Reagan.

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[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 91 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Lmao "there was a time when America appreciated unions: Reagan"

Jesus christ teamsters time to start looking for a new union pres

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[–] AernaLingus@hexbear.net 88 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Reagan? The man who is famous for singlehandedly crushing the air traffic controllers' union during his first year in office and accelerating the nationwide decline of unions? How can a union president endorse this shit with a straight face?

[–] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 72 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How can a union president endorse this shit with a straight face?

Professional organizers are the type of labor aristocrat most likely to be class traitors tbh.

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[–] StalinStan@hexbear.net 42 points 3 months ago

Money helps

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 32 points 3 months ago

How can a union president endorse this shit with a straight face?

It's very hard to make a man understand something his paycheck depends on him not understanding.

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[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 85 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

China is ripping us off

American capitalists gave it to them, for free. Reagan and others allowed it to happen. It was a gift.

And its not like America lost everything. China is giving America 'free' shit in exchange for U.S. Dollars.

And Republicans are going to enact tariffs on Chinese goods while not improving domestic capacity. Atleast with Democrats one could claim they may give tax credits on domestic EVs or whatever (not enough of course). But Republicans love fossil fuels and think EVs are soy, there is zero reason for them to do anything.

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[–] FishLake@lemmygrad.ml 68 points 3 months ago

Unions cozying up to fascists has famously worked very well… for the fascists.

[–] Barabas@hexbear.net 66 points 3 months ago (1 children)

while using the profits to push diversity, equity, and inclusion and the religion of the trans flag.

I guess it would have been fine if it wasn't supposedly spent on big woke.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 60 points 3 months ago (1 children)

300 millions dividends

20 millions executive bonuses

100 thousands donation to local community college in a disadvantaged community and osha posters with black man on it to get a tax write off

someone who is good with money help me boohoo

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 32 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] very_poggers_gay@hexbear.net 29 points 3 months ago

cock buybacks

[–] Skeleton_Erisma@hexbear.net 61 points 3 months ago

Lol this country is fuckin cooked

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 51 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No it's true, The Trans® have ruined the c-suite by transing genders

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 38 points 3 months ago

The Trans®

Registered trans at birth

[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 51 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Probably should have guessed the old union guy is a fuck but i liked this guy. Oh well, into the trash

[–] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 32 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Teamster's for a Democratic Union have some explaining to do

[–] TheKanzler@hexbear.net 50 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

@TeamsterSOB

Accurate

stairs i-told-you-dog

I told you dog, I warned you about the western unions

[–] Jenniferrr@hexbear.net 49 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 17 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Fascism is not pro-labor. In fact, it’s primary function is crushing labor

[–] dead@hexbear.net 45 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Fascism is not pro-labor. In fact, it’s primary function is crushing labor

"Pro-labor conservatism" is also not pro-labor. Just as National Socialism was not socialism. Fascism takes on the aesthetic of being pro-labor while doing actions that are anti-labor. Before creating Fascism, Mussolini was a member of the Italian socialist party and actively involved with Italian labor unions. One of the core principles of fascism is class collaboration. Mussolini inverted class conflict to create the idea that working class people and capitalists benefit from working together and actually aren't in conflict. Fascism absolutely tries to present itself as being pro-labor.

If you saw the phrase "pro-labor conservatism" and thought they it's actually going to be pro-labor while also blaming transgender people, electric vehicles, DEI, and China, then you have some seriously flawed analysis.

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[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Having fash bootlicking "labour unions"? First time?

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Joe Brandon was right when he said that unions aren’t the same thing as labor. In some cases, unions are directly opposed to the interests of the working class as a whole

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Many such cases. I forget the essays, but I'm pretty sure there's a lot of Marxist literature that talks about Unionism not being the end-all of working class struggle. Without Marxism as a foundation of unions, they are often used against the working class as a whole.

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[–] newmou@hexbear.net 48 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Rabidly pro trans CEOs have infiltrated the highest echelons of American empire. Every day the CEO of my company calls me wanting to talk “next steps” on “the big plan”

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[–] dukedevin@hexbear.net 46 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I am so Settlers pilled rn

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[–] citrussy_capybara@hexbear.net 45 points 3 months ago (1 children)

“your surplus value isn’t being taken by the capitalist owner class, they barely make enough to keep a yacht over their heads. it’s all going to woke dei trans people. vote the GQP in power and i pinky swear that money will go back into your pockets and not into a second, bigger yacht that carrys the first one around”

[–] egg1918@hexbear.net 40 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I had a long comment typed out but it doesn't matter. All I can say is lol. Lmao, even.

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[–] StalinStan@hexbear.net 39 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I am kinda not even that mad for them joining the winning team. I just don't see what they could possibly get out of it.

Like, the DNC isn't gonna treat them any better so they might as well shop around I just can't picture them getting anything for this.

[–] Barabas@hexbear.net 46 points 3 months ago (2 children)

They get to blame minorities I guess.

[–] StalinStan@hexbear.net 37 points 3 months ago

Good to see the feds hard work in dividing labor along color lines is still paying off. I would hate to think my tax money was bing wasted on a shitty psyop.

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[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 37 points 3 months ago
[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 37 points 3 months ago
[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 37 points 3 months ago

I remember this bozo. he's been hit with discrimination charges before. Sanders actually had him called before a senate hearing and he started arguing with a senate republican (mullin i think) and they started acting like 12 year olds and challenging each other to a fight.

Also class collaborationist labor unions in the USA have been the norm since Taft Hartley at least

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 37 points 3 months ago

I honestly have to say I hope he meets Jimmy Hoffa

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 31 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I don't understand this. Is there anyone decent in Teamsters at this point? Should we organize against this union? Why are these people so racist and transphobic? I don't get why humans can't just leave each other alone?

[–] BobDole@hexbear.net 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)

smalls-unflinching ALU just affiliated with them lmao

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why do I feel like everything happening around me politically is trying to get me to kill myself?

Seriously, now unions are siding with the enemy? WTF am I supposed to do?

[–] BobDole@hexbear.net 23 points 3 months ago (4 children)

American Unions sided with the enemy when they kicked out the communists in the 40’s (thanks Eleanor Roosevelt). AFL-CIA has never been on our side.

We gotta organize outside of the co-opted bullshit orgs. I would recommend IWW, but the GEB and GST are fucking hamstringing the org right now for petty personal power and profit.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (12 children)

Vladimir Lenin’s “Left-Wing” Communism: an Infantile Disorder

Should Revolutionaries Work in Reactionary Trade Unions?

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In its work, the Party relies directly on the trade unions, which, according to the data of the last congress (April 1920), now have a membership of over four million and are formally non-Party. Actually, all the directing bodies of the vast majority of the unions, and primarily, of course, of the all-Russia general trade union centre or bureau (the All-Russia Central Council of Trade Unions), are made up of Communists and carry out all the directives of the Party. Thus, on the whole, we have a formally non-communist, flexible and relatively wide and very powerful proletarian apparatus, by means of which the Party is closely linked up with the class and the masses, and by means of which, under the leadership of the Party, the class dictatorship is exercised. Without close contacts with the trade unions, and without their energetic support and devoted efforts, not only in economic, but also in military affairs, it would of course have been impossible for us to govern the country and to maintain the dictatorship for two and a half months, let alone two and a half years. In practice, these very close contacts naturally call for highly complex and diversified work in the form of propaganda, agitation, timely and frequent conferences, not only with the leading trade union workers, but with influential trade union workers generally; they call for a determined struggle against the Mensheviks, who still have a certain though very small following to whom they teach all kinds of counter-revolutionary machinations, ranging from an ideological defence of (bourgeois) democracy and the preaching that the trade unions should be “independent” (independent of proletarian state power!) to sabotage of proletarian discipline, etc., etc.

We consider that contacts with the “masses” through the trade unions are not enough. In the course of our revolution, practical activities have given rise to such institutions as non-Party workers’ and peasants’ conferences, and we strive by every means to support, develop and extend this institution in order to be able to observe the temper of the masses, come closer to them, meet their requirements, promote the best among them to state posts, etc. Under a recent decree on the transformation of the People’s Commissariat of State Control into the Workers’ and Peasants’ Inspection, non-Party conferences of this kind have been empowered to select members of the State Control to carry out various kinds of investigations, etc.

Then, of course, all the work of the Party is carried on through the Soviets, which embrace the working masses irrespective of occupation.

Including baristas lmao

The district congresses of Soviets are democratic institutions, the like of which even the best of the democratic republics of the bourgeois world have never known; through these congresses (whose proceedings the Party endeavours to follow with the closest attention), as well as by continually appointing class-conscious workers to various posts in the rural districts, the proletariat exercises its role of leader of the peasantry, gives effect to the dictatorship of the urban proletariat wages a systematic struggle against the rich, bourgeois, exploiting and profiteering peasantry, etc.

Such is the general mechanism of the proletarian state power viewed “from above”, from the standpoint of the practical implementation of the dictatorship. We hope that the reader will understand why the Russian Bolshevik who has known this mechanism for twenty-five years and has seen it develop out of small, illegal and underground circles, cannot help regarding all this talk about “from above” or “from below”, about the dictatorship of leaders or the dictatorship of the masses, etc., as ridiculous and childish nonsense, something like discussing whether a man’s left leg or right arm is of greater use to him.

We cannot but regard as equally ridiculous and childish nonsense the pompous, very learned, and frightfully revolutionary disquisitions of the German Lefts to the effect that Communists cannot and should not work in reactionary trade unions, that it is permissible to turn down such work, that it is necessary to withdraw from the trade unions and create a brand-new and immaculate “Workers’ Union” invented by very pleasant (and, probably, for the most part very youthful) Communists, etc., etc.

Capitalism inevitably leaves socialism the legacy, on the one hand, of the old trade and craft distinctions among the workers, distinctions evolved in the course of centuries; on the other hand, trade unions, which only very slowly, in the course of years and years, can and will develop into broader industrial unions with less of the craft union about them (embracing entire industries, and not only crafts, trades and occupations), and later proceed, through these industrial unions, to eliminate the division of labour among people, to educate and school people, give them all-round development and an all-round training, so that they are able to do everything. Communism is advancing and must advance towards that goal, and will reach it, but only after very many years. To attempt in practice, today, to anticipate this future result of a fully developed, fully stabilised and constituted, fully comprehensive and mature communism would be like trying to teach higher mathematics to a child of four.

We can (and must) begin to build socialism, not with abstract human material, or with human material specially prepared by us, but with the human material bequeathed to us by capitalism. True, that is no easy matter, but no other approach to this task is serious enough to warrant discussion.

The trade unions were a tremendous step forward for the working class in the early days of capitalist development, inasmuch as they marked a transition from the workers’ disunity and helplessness to the rudiments of class organisation. When the revolutionary party of the proletariat, the highest form of proletarian class organisation, began to take shape (and the Party will not merit the name until it learns to weld the leaders into one indivisible whole with the class and the masses) the trade unions inevitably began to reveal certain reactionary features, a certain craft narrow-mindedness, a certain tendency to be non-political, a certain inertness, etc. However, the development of the proletariat did not, and could not, proceed anywhere in the world otherwise than through the trade unions, through reciprocal action between them and the party of the working class. The proletariat’s conquest of political power is a gigantic step forward for the proletariat as a class, and the Party must more than ever and in a new way, not only in the old, educate and guide the trade unions, at the same time bearing in mind that they are and will long remain an indispensable “school of communism” and a preparatory school that trains proletarians to exercise their dictatorship, an indispensable organisation of the workers for the gradual transfer of the management of the whole economic life of the country to the working class (and not to the separate trades), and later to all the working people.

In the sense mentioned above, a certain “reactionism” in the trade unions is inevitable under the dictatorship of the proletariat. Not to understand this means a complete failure to understand the fundamental conditions of the transition from capitalism to socialism.

Looking at you, Polandia.

It would be egregious folly to fear this “reactionism” or to try to evade or leap over it, for it would mean fearing that function of the proletarian vanguard which consists in training, educating, enlightening and drawing into the new life the most backward strata and masses of the working class and the peasantry. On the other hand, it would be a still graver error to postpone the achievement of the dictatorship of the proletariat until a time when there will not be a single worker with a narrow-minded craft outlook, or with craft and craft-union prejudices. The art of politics (and the Communist’s correct understanding of his tasks) consists in correctly gauging the conditions and the moment when the vanguard of the proletariat can successfully assume power, when it is able—during and after the seizure of power—to win adequate support from sufficiently broad strata of the working class and of the non-proletarian working masses, and when it is able thereafter to maintain, consolidate and extend its rule by educating, training and attracting ever broader masses of the working people.

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[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 30 points 3 months ago
[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 28 points 3 months ago

I guess the Democrats told him he can't speak at their convention so why not twist the knife

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 26 points 3 months ago

God I hate the democrats

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 23 points 3 months ago (2 children)

punished-bernie I was on bereavement leave at the IRA and missed a few, will hexbear be splitting into dino tankies or mecha tankies?

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 22 points 3 months ago

Neither, it's another case of "sit back and watch the fireworks"

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 17 points 3 months ago

Weretankies or Vamptankies. Twilight is gonna make a comeback.

[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 23 points 3 months ago

This is one of those speeches that is so full of dumb shit I mentally blue-screen. It actively takes more effort to go out of your way to be this bigoted .

[–] Dimmer06@hexbear.net 14 points 3 months ago (11 children)

All the fucking labor notes hacks in TDU and all the socialist orgs that didn't condemn their shitty UPS contract should be ashamed of themselves.

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[–] HelluvaBottomCarter@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Ah shit here we go again

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