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https://xcancel.com/TeamsterSOB/status/1813233768137662564

https://archive.is/Zzvlv

The C-suite long ago sold out the United States, shuttering factories in the homeland and gutting American jobs, while using the profits to push diversity, equity, and inclusion and the religion of the trans flag.

They have forged trade deals that led directly to the hemorrhaging of 4 million good jobs to China.

But as O’Brien correctly observed Monday night, that isn’t the Republican Party’s true tradition. There was a time when Republicans knew that American strength depends squarely on American workers—and their way of life: family, neighborhood, church, union hall. Ronald Reagan knew it.

China is ripping us off, and strong tariffs must be maintained and expanded.

Teamsters blaming transgender people, "DEI", and China for the suppression of the labor unions in America. Gives support to family, church, and Ronald Reagan.

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[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 17 points 3 months ago

Fascism is not pro-labor. In fact, it’s primary function is crushing labor

[-] dead@hexbear.net 45 points 3 months ago

Fascism is not pro-labor. In fact, it’s primary function is crushing labor

"Pro-labor conservatism" is also not pro-labor. Just as National Socialism was not socialism. Fascism takes on the aesthetic of being pro-labor while doing actions that are anti-labor. Before creating Fascism, Mussolini was a member of the Italian socialist party and actively involved with Italian labor unions. One of the core principles of fascism is class collaboration. Mussolini inverted class conflict to create the idea that working class people and capitalists benefit from working together and actually aren't in conflict. Fascism absolutely tries to present itself as being pro-labor.

If you saw the phrase "pro-labor conservatism" and thought they it's actually going to be pro-labor while also blaming transgender people, electric vehicles, DEI, and China, then you have some seriously flawed analysis.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago

If you saw the phrase "pro-labor conservatism" and thought they it's actually going to be pro-labor while also blaming transgender people, electric vehicles, DEI, and China, then you have some seriously flawed analysis.

Where did I say any of that? My point is that the GOP cozying up to unions doesn’t make them more fascist, if anything it makes them marginally less. My position is that both major parties in the US are fascist.

[-] dead@hexbear.net 23 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I say "If" because I try to interpret your comment without assuming. The way that your comments appear to me is that you are correcting the other person to say what is happening is not like Fascism.

I don't see this as the GOP cozying up to unions. I see this as a union cozying up to the GOP. This seems like a flirtation with class collaboration. There are a few characteristics of this that seem similar to fascism.

Most importantly, the writing shifts the blame of class conflict to vulnerable communities, transgender people, DEI (dogwhistle for nonwhite people). Class conflict is what has caused workers and unions to suffer.

Another characteristic is that this "pro-labor conservatism" is a response to the rise of a new Marxist global superpower. Fascism in Italy and Germany rose to power as an opposition to the rise of Marxism, particularly the USSR. "Pro-labor conservatism" is telling us that it is motivated by an opposition to China, who is very soon to be surpassing the US economy in global power. The US is having increasingly more aggressive rhetoric towards China.

The article also promotes "America First" as a political ideology, which is a slogan of nationalists which dates back quite a long time and the slogan was compared to Fascism during WWII even.

Another characteristic of Fascism is that Sean O'Brien presents his ideology as bipartisan, a third way, as an alternative to the left-right spectrum.

The article also appeals to right wing values such as family and church and Ronald Reagan.

There's a lot of characteristics of fascism being exhibited. I think it's a fair to compare this "pro-labor conservatism" to fascism.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 3 months ago

Having fash bootlicking "labour unions"? First time?

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago

Joe Brandon was right when he said that unions aren’t the same thing as labor. In some cases, unions are directly opposed to the interests of the working class as a whole

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Many such cases. I forget the essays, but I'm pretty sure there's a lot of Marxist literature that talks about Unionism not being the end-all of working class struggle. Without Marxism as a foundation of unions, they are often used against the working class as a whole.

[-] peeonyou@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago

this makes perfect sense

[-] Barx@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

The OG official fascism in Italy thrived on turning unions to their cause. They specifically targeted unions as a focus for struggle: co-opt first and if that fails (usually because the union is radical left), destroy them.

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