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[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 137 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Dollars to donuts, that guy got un-brainwashed during the trial & isn't voting for Trump now.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 106 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Which is actually pretty hopeful. Once the dude got out of a media ecosystem telling him what to think and feel, and he was presented with the facts in an irrefutable way, he did what was right.

Right-wing media is all about creating an information bubble keeping inconvenient truths out.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 8 points 2 years ago

"no one is the villain of their own story."

I strongly believe that the majority of Trump supporters (maybe not the supremely rabid ones) truly believe that they're doing the right thing based on the propaganda they're exposed to.

I live in a rather red area of my state and while I definitely know racists and selfish assholes (this is NY so they're everywhere) most of the Republicans i know are generally good people that are just submerged in a propaganda ecosystem. Hell one of my coworkers is absolutely a way better person than I am: volunteering and giving to charity, giving a lot of their time to others, but they're also a die hard Republican.

If anyone checks my history I say this a thousand times: I FUCKING HATE PROPAGANDISTS they are a cancer on society...

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

And right wing/conservative policies are all about creating a class of people in society who can be exploited and abused

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[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

God if that's all it takes.... Stick each of these fuckers in a tiny room with 11 of their peers and FORCE them to listen to nothing but cold hard facts for hours a day, for weeks, and then discuss them in person until they can all unanimously agree on our collective reality...

Maybe it's doable? God, I hate the idea of "re-education," it has such an icky, authoritarian connotation. But it's literally what these people need. Except in this case it isn't about inundating them with propaganda, it's literally just reality and irrefutable facts.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 19 points 2 years ago

It's all about group membership.

If the people on the jury started to see themselves as a coherent group, then they can change minds and reach consensus. People listen to other people in their in group way more.

If you try to talk to a maga person, and they see you as a Outsider, you're going to have a very difficult time getting them to listen to anything you say.

We all do this to some extent.

It's just really bad currently that the maga people will look to their group for consensus reality, and they have mostly bad ideas.

I don't know how to dismantle that group.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 48 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm not even slightly surprised that Trump doesn't know how jury trials work.

[–] athos77@kbin.social 72 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He's most likely referring to Juror #2 who, iirc, is a man who follows Trump on Truth Social and also watches Fox 'News'.

At this point, I would love again like to publicly apologize to Juror #2 for the aspersions I cast on his character during the trial. I'm sorry, dude; you looked at the evidence and went where it led you.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean, it could also be that he was more self-interested than principled and caved against his beliefs so he could go home.

Retracting previous aspersions is warranted because we don't know which it was and should give him the benefit of the doubt... but we don't know.

[–] Today@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Or that he was faking.

[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 39 points 2 years ago

Brilliant move by the juror. Getting crushed is just that much worse when you have some hope.

(although I highly doubt this was a calculation by the juror and more Trump reading into something that was never there)

[–] midnight_puker@sh.itjust.works 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] IntangibleSloth@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

👔👔👔👔👔👔 Motherfucker

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Thick thighs mother fucker.

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he did a little trolling lol

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago
[–] acetanilide@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I was very surprised by this part of the article:

Trump made careful effort not to mention or criticize the jury in a press conference on Friday morning.

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[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 years ago

I guarantee they were the truth social user

[–] wildcardology@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

If he believed that he filled a 20,000 capacity venue with 100,000 people, hell believe that he has at least 1 fanatic in the jury.

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

Loyalty be damned! It's the law bitch!

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