Practically speaking, this means entry level jobs for a “middle” class career track are now only available to those whose parents can cover rent/commute/work supplies costs. If you can’t lean on intergenerational wealth, you’re screwed.
America is going to get used to multigen homes just like 3rd world counties have to do.
My partner and I live with her mom, and we are all so much less stressed than before. Now we have the energy to clean, cook at home even when wanting nice food, etc. It's really great.
Honestly I'm a fan of living at home. My mother and I bring in about the same each month and rather than having to then blow a solid percentage of each paycheck paying for shelter, food, heating separate places, etc, a smaller percentage leaves the communal pot to cover these same costs, alone we'd both probably get by meagerly, but together we have enough to not really struggle.
And I cant wait.
been there for years now. as I was reading articles about how "young people are moving back in with their parents!!1!" it was actually my parents moving back in with me. As I was reading articles about "young people are financially irresponsible!!!11!!" I was covering my parents' bills. As I was reading articles about how "young people splurge on treats!!!!1!" I was budgeting for a household with 3 generations. It makes me sick the way the media talks about working class people, especially young people. I'm not even "young" any more so I see the vitriol leveled against millenials now getting leveled against zoomers.
10% of the sample reported turning down a job due to these costs -- that's not nothing, but it's not like this affects even close to most of that group.
On the other hand, it creates a pool of high quality employees for their leaner competitors to hire from.
Entry level job? Without even doing a 2 year unpaid internship in Geneva?!?
Crazy how you can go through multiple rounds of an interview and the "costs of employment" just never get brought up in the conversation.
Almost as though the HR process is a fucking sham and people are interviewing with a stack of MLMs in a trench coat.
Multi-level marketing side-job HR to scam you
Marxist-Leninist-Maoist HR hiring an internal cell to destroy the company
I've actually seen a communist infiltrate HR at a large company and the sheer level of damage they can do is shocking.
How?
Got a degree in HR as a standard socdem lanyard and avoided the final soul excising ritual. Was radicalised in first NGO job by a hiring drama, joined a radical union, was headhunted for a large company (about 20,000 employees) and went straight to the union who did sideshowboblaugh.jpg)
The sequel to "How to Blow Up a Pipeline" is going to be pretty good, huh?
I’d pay to watch this soap opera
I got in at the company I'm at really early on, like when there were 6 employees. We're at about 20 now, but it's pretty obvious that a huge amount of the culture in that office stems from me being very open and direct with every new hire.
Anytime bossman tries to pull some shit, we all agree and go straight to him. Everyone's on the same page with sickouts and slowdowns or just fighting with him in general. It's pretty refreshing to work somewhere where everyone is on the same page and won't take bullshit.
Increase $5/hr and slightly better benifets 
median house costs starting at $350k single family. 
Or $2000+ per month in rent - single room, shared bathroom, loud ass neighbors and paper thin walls. Also you're stuck with Comcast as your ISP. 45 minute communte - both ways. 
Happy to be working in my dead end job knowing that nothing will ever get better. Reporting to happy duty, sir. 
Wait you have to do multiple rounds of interviews for jobs with uniforms?
Average process for a coding job is 5-7 rounds of 1 hour interviews lmao
Before COVID they also flew you out to their office to "get a feel" for you in person or some dumb shit
The standard is to take a bunch of PTO to be able to do interviews if you're working
You forgot all the practical interviews and programming tests lol
I did lmao
Though I would refuse to do any that were longer than a fixed 1 hour test
Article didn't really mention the kinds of jobs, although it definitely gave me office job vibes. I'm assuming it might mean the dress codes of the workplaces require a wardrobe they can't afford.
yeah, i recently got one of these bullshit email jobs and theres no dress code at all. there used to be, but since they've started exclusively hiring people my age (ie, cheap people, people without dependants) thats gone out the window. we don't have nice clothes, they don't pay us enough to buy nice clothes, and on the odd occasion that a manager tells us to 'smarten up' we all just nod and continue wearing hoodies, because fuck, what other option do we have. i think the managers know exactly what the situation is and that they literally can't press the issue without losing like half the team.
a manager tells us to 'smarten up'
that's my cue to pull out a utility knife and stick it in his eye.
fucking based. i'll have to try that strategy myself next time 
The amount of jobs which include 0 customer facing I had to turn down due to uniform requirements making it so I'd have to buy an entire new wardrobe is sickening.
probably could have cropped out the second copy of the same paragraph
They did surgery on a grape
They did surgery on a grape
On what now?
THEY DID SURGERY ON A GRAPE
They did surgery on a grape
They did surgery on a grape
They did surgery on a grape
:theydidsurgeryonagrape:
class Grape: ...
class They:
def __init__(self, patient: Grape, profession: str):
self.patient = patient
self.profession = profession
def do(self):
print(f"{type(self).__name___} did {self.profession} on a {type(self.patient).__name__.lower()}"
if __name__ == '__main__':
the_grape = Grape()
they = They(the_grape, "surgery")
they.do()
Oh no, he didnt live. But it's just exciting that they're trying things like that.
vote
I know that in comparison to business professional attire it's sorta simple, but I really do think it's fucked that for my first hospital job I had to go get a set of scrubs that had the company embroidered onto it and pay for that embroidering while having strict requirements of what tops were acceptable. Like you had to get a relatively recent release of a Cherokee scrub top of specific cut. Going to a nursing home position then required me to then buy a whole new set because I can't use embroidered shit, but also they had their own colors that were part of the uniform. At least I can reuse them I suppose, but like 70 dollars for a single outfit starting from unemployment is rough not accounting for the like 200+ I spend on shoes in a year so my feet aren't destroyed. I recently upgraded from a set of 3 scrubs rotating to a set of 4 and it's almost like I can go a bit without doing laundry.
wtf I pay $500 for a single ibuprofen at these places and they don't even buy their employees their uniforms?
This is why I'm going to China or something, my country also has awful house prices and my industry's main corporations have the worst hiring process and don't pay enough to survive. 
That's so cool, hope you'll succeed
Me too, my plan is to emmigrate, if you ever want to discuss lmk, it's been a long journey so far.
first it was the genders, now it's the genzers
This is why Balzac is one of Marx's favs, in one of the Lost Illusion series Lucien can't afford a fashionable suit and doesn't make a good impression with high society he seeks a career in. Suits are expensive yo, like 200 at a discount store then throw on shoes, even at Shein you're looking at 60 dollars. If you've been unemployed for a while, its difficult for people to understand you may have a 0 in your back account and no one to depend on, for me this is the default.
A year ago or so I had to go to an interview for a 16/hr position (ngl would be the highest earning position I've ever had, lab work is straight min wage and high competition) requiring a suit, and it's been a long minute since I've worn one (grandma's funeral) so I went, didn't realize how much weight I've lost, so the suit was 2 sizes too large, missing buttons etc. Then I didn't realize the location was farther than anticipated with low gas and my antique but reliable vehicle. When I got there I was a larger ball of nerves and rando interns about half my age loled at my poor presentation and made comments, interview ended in all about 3 seconds and I know my poor presentation didn't help along with this being a rather rural and therefore bigoted by default sort area.
I don't have relatives etc I can hit up for this sort of thing, never did, never will, petite bourgeois can't understand poverty, reminds me of one of my grad school rejection letters suggesting I backpack EU or similar when my ass drove 1k mi to that interview. A lot of the people there didn't understand not having family, friends etc you can just ask for things, my family's worse off than me, sib.
It reminds me how the ignorant and cruel able-bodied treat those who are different as burdens upon them who willed this on others out of inborn level personality flaw, just totally and unwilling unable to comprehend people have different challenges in life that we alone can't face, yet that capitalist alienation and toxic individualism.
Fucking hell, grad school was hell even without that sort of application process, I'm sorry it went like that for you.
Thanks, never got in. Took all my college savings for that app round, the whole idea people can apply multiple rounds is beyond me. I could never earn enough to apply again, and now I'm aged out, while I was interviewing I overheard them boot a guy who was merely 30 for being too old, though he was quite qualified I thought. I hoped lab work would strengthen a future application but now I realize, that's now how it works, and they don't want people like me in the sciences anyhow, and I mean that in multiple ways.
On the other side a PhD my husband never was able to get in a lot of the issues of bigtory never got better. There's nothing like dedicating 4-7 years of your life to something to only find you can't get in for various reason, its psychological torture.
In your case I can tell that particular wicked little school is somewhere in EEurope, Asia or California right off the bat since many programs don't care that much on age, on fit you're absolutely right you are out. Consider yourself lucky in two ways, 1 your labor won't be used to make horrors beyond our mere mortal conceptions and 1.5 you should always be on strike as an information worker in the west, they don't need a single scientist or engineer more unless there's an 'eternal science of MLism' in there as far as the non imperial world is concerned since all your craft ends up hurting more than helping, and 2 that shit's gonna end up in the ocean any minute now when the big one finally hits 
another cut to the west.
Functioning system we have here
Gen zeders? Gen zeers? Wtf people, we're zoomers!
Banned? DM Wmill to appeal.
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