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[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 93 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Formal prompt engineering certification?

Lol. Lmao even

[–] psud@aussie.zone 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 34 points 1 week ago (2 children)

From paper mills? Probably. Accredited? Unlikely.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah none that I would respect, but I bet you could buy a qualification

[–] DickCaramel@piefed.social 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Cisco has a prompt engineering course that counts for CE credits. I know because it was one of two free courses available that I used to recert recently. Welcome to hell.

as much as i loathe llms, i feel like that kind of education is necessary nowadays. it should teach people how useless llms are.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Just ask chatgpt to make you one

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[–] Aneb@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

This might be the dissenting opinion but they do. My friend has a cert from CMU for Prompt Engineering.

[–] nogooduser@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You can work much faster with AIs than is shown on wall clock time.

Just make sure that you’re working with 9 LLMs at once and you can get that 9 years experience in just one year.

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 week ago

just have your ai manage ais and iy’s ais all the way down

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[–] jdr@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Guess who wrote that job description

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

tbh, I'm not sure LLMs are that stupid.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Calling them 'prompt engineers' has to be a real kick in the nuts to actual engineers.

[–] cheat700000007@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Software engineer is still insulting to a lot of mechanical engineers

[–] 2xar@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

All engineers know that their specific field of work is the most important, most difficult and most complex type of engineering there is.

Most of them are wrong of course, because the aforementioned field is PLC design and programming. Which is coincidentally, what I do.

[–] cheat700000007@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I can see the xkcd comic for this

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Anyone that's completed an actual engineering degree/diploma knows that there is a significant difference between completing an engineering course and being an engineer. Unfortunately, there's lots of people that haven't done either and still use the name.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

PLC? You mean the fisherprice toys of electrical engineering?

I create my own PLC from scratch, and it's the hardest engineering field.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

really? I don't know anyone that feels that way. mechanical, mechatronics, and software are my closest friend groups.

maybe it's just that the additional professional qualification of engineer in my province adds a clear distinction between engineering graduate and professional engineer

[–] Aneb@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Idk I guess I didn't finish my degree but it felt very engineering focused, I'm not going to guess your knowledge but software engineers build systems that can basically do anything.

[–] airbreather@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The word "relevant" suggests that the only people who can possibly meet those qualifications are the authors of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention_Is_All_You_Need, which was published just about 9 years ago

[–] bort@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It says "AI/LLM". so I guess they count non-llm as well. So they could probably count everything that uses a MLP, which have been around for some time.

[–] neidu4@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well, I wrote my first if in 1998...

EDIT: Actually, I think it was 1996

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

8 or 9 years is about right for when modern LLMs started. Do people really think LLMs just sprang into existence a few years ago with giant corporations pushing them?

The tech is decades old depending on how you look at it, and even under a rather strict definition it's pushing at least a decade.

To be fair to qualify for all of that unless your a researcher on transformer models or something I really doubt your going to find anyone that fits all those points for that length of time.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

Do we really think those on the cutting edge of AI and LLMs a decade ago are applying for prompt engineer roles...with their mandatory prompt engineer cert.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That one "AI dungeon" videogame from like 2019 was using gpt2 and it was still better than current "exponentially improving" chatgpt at most things. Was just a bit more porn oriented that's all.

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You had 3 prompts to nut before it just started giving Wikipedia articles.

[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 2 points 1 week ago

It knows what I like

I remember fucking with an image generator in 2021

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Yeah, that kinda crap has been around for forever, I know I ran into these same types of HR written BS requirements back in the 2000 when I was searching for jobs and .NET and Java was the latest hotness, been out for just a few years and was running into job postings requesting 5 - 10 years of experience.

As a mobile dev, I remember seeing jobs early on that would have years of experience required that predated android/ios.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Good thing I've used ELIZA my whole life.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 7 points 1 week ago

It says overall experience. Just say you worked two simultaneous AI jobs for the last five years and you're good!

[–] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Machine learning/LLM actually was around 10 years ago, it just didn't have the farcical "AI" moniker.

[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah.

The groundbreaking "Attention Is All You Need" paper, in which transformer architecture was proposed, was published 9 years ago. It was obviously part of a much longer running conversation around how to use linear algebra to find machine learning applications. If you're looking for someone who understands the underlying math and processes at a lower level, this isn't an unreasonable ask.

It is, however, an unreasonable ask of someone for a "prompt engineer" job though.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ironically, I have literally implemented backpropagation from scratch like three separate times at this point (once before the famous CUDA impl) but I'd probably fail this interview for not knowing enough of the current agentic meta.

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago

Well, actually, we've had the tech since the 80s

[–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How many people working on that >9 years ago are applying for positions like this, though?

[–] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 2 points 1 week ago

4,852

Just kidding, idfk

[–] Juice@midwest.social 6 points 1 week ago

I've got like 30 years experience with AI if you include street fighter 2 turbo edition single player mode

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

I was a PM and wrote specs, that's prompt engineering.

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We could go pretty far back depending on how you define it. We had less useful items that still could qualify in the same category as a modern LLM 7-8 years ago which gets us close... You could potentially stretch the definition to something like Megahal which is pushing pretty close to 30 years old.

[–] cyberangelcorpse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There were technically ais back then. They just didn't do much and just spout nonsense sentences

[–] TachyonTele_Esq@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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That's more experience than Big Balls had to go through everyone's shit.

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