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[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Everyone who argues against PT essentially says "I can't use it [so nobody should]".

Blow their minds with this one weird trick:

"If everyone else is on a bus, you get the road to yourself!"

[–] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is what gets me. I understand that if like 99% of people stop doing X then it becomes more difficult for you to do/acquire materials for X due to lack of demand.

However, if only 90% swap, you likely can just as easily do X now as before, with less traffic and roadblocks

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

I argued that with someone last year. They seemed to have a 'oh yeah' moment when I told them that.

[–] BC_viper@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And I want it so I can drink all day. We are not the same.

[–] mosaic09@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago

you know what, same outcome, good enough

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But like... what if I want both?

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I'd like to make an argument. Everywhere I have ever lived, other residents have mentioned that their area's drivers are the worst in the world.

Following that logic, I don't believe that humans should be driving. Decent public transit is the barest necessity to improve the life quality of average transportation enthusiasts, as it is the only way to reduce the number of people on the road.

[–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I've never heard anyone say that here, but apparently our drivers exams are some of the hardest in the world. From what I've seen, in a lot of places drivers education is quite bad. There will always be morons though, but if you stop people from driving because of that a lot of jobs become impossible to do for a lot of people. I don't think it's feasible to expect a plumber or electrician to take all their tools on the bus.

[–] grranibal@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Regarding the last part of your comment, you’re right, but on the other side there are lots and lots of jobs that need little to no equipment :)

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Certainly not meant to create a 0 driver end state, just a closer to 0 driver end state. I'd never steal someone's ability to become the ghost busters. That is a core tenet of mine.

[–] Kroney@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago

Everywhere I have ever lived, other residents have mentioned that their area's drivers are the worst in the world.

Maybe you’re the problem \s

[–] ApplyingAutomation@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

So... we are the same.

[–] danekrae@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Be careful not to lean over a little and look in the rearview mirror. You might spot one.

Hehe gottem.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 8 points 1 day ago

Generally, the fewer people driving, the better the experience is for those who do drive.

[–] untorquer@quokk.au 4 points 1 day ago

When public transit is sufficiently developed only the morons and enthusiasts will remain on the road.

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just this morning I had someone pull across the road in front of me as I was cycling to work and almost hit me. Fortunately the traffic was slow and I had time to brake or her car would have a much larger dent in the passenger door from me kicking it to avoid going into it head first.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is why I don't bike around my town. Too many crazies, not enough bike lanes.

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago

There is only 100m of my 8km commute that is shared with cars. A single T junction along it which is where I was going straight and she turned across into my path.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 day ago

I want to see the relative percentage of morons on the road who are also driving busses to skyrocket. So same am I not!

[–] cinoreus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It means you're now boarding with the same moron, facing him everyday.

Big win, now he's at a punchable distance.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

bigger win: he's at crop dust distance and he's never gonna know who gave him pink eye