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i love my country deeply but it doesnt love me in terms of my beliefs. i often consider leaving the NATO aligned world

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[–] axont@hexbear.net 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My country is the international working class

[–] JimLarkin@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

If your nations is occupied or partitioned, then the national question is easy to answer. Your immediate contradiction in the way of socialist progress is national liberation.

[–] Runcible@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Feed_el_Castro@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Hate to be that person but no, this is not correct. Long live to the heroes of the Soviet Union who gave their lives defending their homeland from fascism, long live the Cuban doctors who study all their lives to treat their compatriots.

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[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] opiumfree@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago (4 children)

im only asking a question. you got it all wrong if u dont think communists loved their countries sometimes

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think that was his opinion of his country

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

No that would be amerikkka qin-shi-huangdi-fireball illegal-to-say illegal-to-say illegal-to-say

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[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

WHy the fuck would I be? - signed, an american

Treason is the most based crime

Loyalty to AmeriKKKa is treason against life.

[–] trompete@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

Of course, being a traitor to the Great Satan is good and based, it's just that I never signed up to be one of his minions. Which makes me not a traitor. I'm pleading not guilty if they come for me, much good that will do me.

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@anarchist.nexus 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I HATE my country and actively root for its obliteration. I'm an ancom so I'm not really a fan of any country, but there will always be a "special" place of HATE within my blackened heart for AmeriKKKa, and I'm instinctively distrustful of AmeriKKKan settlers until they show me reason to trust them.

Death to AmeriKKKa, and I hope the going hurts like hell for the supporters of AmeriKKKa when this vile project collapses.

[–] StillNoLeftLeft@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

bugs-no

I have no love for the nationalistic bourgeoisie project that I happened to be born into.

[–] kittenzrulz123@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

I swear loyalty only to the proletariat

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is your country loyal to you?

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[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

fuck no lol what kind of loser shit is this

[–] ClassIsOver@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago
[–] casskaydee@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

My country is the largest perpetrator of human suffering in living memory so, no

[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (15 children)

Countries are just arbitrary borders drawn in blood. At the end of the day, we're all just people living on the same planet.

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You know, I keep looking for the line between Canada and the US and I just can't find it! You'd think it would be easier to see, beginning to think it's just made up.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

My ancestors used to reside on that border, location depending on the time of year because that’s how they lived back then. Then the Europeans came and drew their line and my ancestors said “fuck it” and smuggled shit across said border because we had family on both sides.

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[–] HiImThomasPynchon@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

I'll serve crack before I serve my country

[–] Salah@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think I’m too autistic to understand the concept of a country and I can’t be loyal to something I don’t understand

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

Don't worry, you're right and everyone else is wrong. Genuinely. Borders are first and foremost lines in people's minds.

[–] CupcakeOfSpice@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

I would love to see my country become socialist, but for it to become so it must cease to be the country it is. It is vile, nationalistic, terroristic. So ultimately I am not loyal to it, but loyal to a future that may yet come to pass.

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

How can I be loyal to a concept that literally arbitrarly divides the working class?

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

If there is a future United Council Republics of Turtle Island (or Federated Communes of Turtle Island), I'm loyal to that.

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

I am appreciative of the ecology that surrounds me. I care about the working class people that live around me (and across the planet). The governmental structures do not exist for my benefit in most situations. I care about the local services that maintain the day to day existence of my city/county, but at the state/nation level there is little reason for me to consider loyalty. The power structures at these higher tiers are so removed from me, they are much like the executives and board members of so many wealthy and influential corporations. These superstructures serve the interests of capital in direct opposition to my interests in almost every situation.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago
[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

The only two things I'm "loyal" to are the roughly 12 kilometer radius immediately surrounding my house, and the world in general. That is all: nothing more, nothing less. I only really care about the arbitrary lines on a world map that determine which holidays I get off work, to the extent that I'm circumstantially forced to by the practical needs of political organization in the face of millennia-old historical forces way beyond my control.

[–] microfiche@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

I'm loyal to God, country and John Wayne. 😤

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I am an inhabitant of the planet Earth, my loyalty is to the living things which inhabit it and the continued restoration of its ecosystems

Countries come and go, but even if humanity goes extinct, the Earth will endure

Maybe the cephalopods will have a better go at things

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[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago
[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

Nice try FBI. I mean, uhh, I'm 100% loyal to my nation and to our benevolent overlord the United States, without whom we would be uhh, in trouble somehow, yeah, thankful for all the protecting us by selling us such wonderful submarines.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

To a country? No. I have a deep and abiding loyalty to Turtle Island and its inhabitants

[–] sleeplessone@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

I despise amerikkka, both for (insert massive non-exhaustive list of countries they've obliterated here) and for molding me into an ignorant, cowardly, sedentary ball of flesh who's too callous and servile to use my many privileges to actually improve the world. At the same time, I feel like it's the only country I'm capable of (mis)functioning in, and I don't think anywhere on Earth would benefit from welcoming my burgerself into its borders.

[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Never felt any emotional attachment to the country I was born in.

It always felt really weird to “be a national”. Like for it to matter at all.

You don’t control where you’re born. I always felt it made more sense to create an attachment to things you develop a taste for.

And it felt like mass scale Stockholm syndrome for people to be so in love with the place they were born in.

This made me violently reject my native country when I went through an angry teenager phase. Now I appreciate it. But just like I appreciate any other country or thing.

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 month ago
[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

I'm loyal to my community and that's it

[–] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

I love the land: the blistering sunshine, the vast expansive desert, the impenetrable bush. I love some aspects of the culture, like being able to call your boss a dickhead and not be punished (assuming they're being a dickhead or it's playful). Increasingly the good aspects of the culture are being eroded by the hostile competition capitalism sows among people. The politics are awful and removed, talking points of the arch conservatives of yesteryear would now be identified as woke nonsense.

The brutal past is awful, and I resent the lack of reckoning with that and the ongoing horror being afflicted on the native peoples.

[–] Gorillatactics@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

In a post modern sense, I dont think Ive ever visited the country I live in.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

Death to america amerikkka

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

I only pledge loyalty to the Master Sire Soros.

[–] tocopherol@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

I am loyal to my country and I have pure love for my compatriots. My country is a landless nation within the so-called "United States" that will not be free until Amerikkka is destroyed.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago
[–] Blep@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

No, i would leave for enough money

[–] LadyCajAsca@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

by 'loyal', does it mean being loyal to the corrupt capitalist state or the people around me?

It's a very complicated position in the Philippines because of the associated progressive nature of anti-imperialism, but I do lean not loyal in a sense that I will treat a country like any governing body, able to be criticized and democratically decided upon. I'm not jingoistic and chauvinistic about my country and would eventually want it be under a 'World Soviet Republic'.

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[–] kristina@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

i mean i kinda love czechia but its more of in a sense that its post communist and theres small vestiges of that. it also helps that i can either or that with the usa

[–] 9to5@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Im a loyal patriot real-navi-patriot

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