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Hate to be that person but no, this is not correct. Long live to the heroes of the Soviet Union who gave their lives defending their homeland from fascism, long live the Cuban doctors who study all their lives to treat their compatriots.
You could say the Red Army GOATs didn't die to protect the country, but their nation. The land, though important, is but irrelevant compared to the people.
Its the people. That's what everything is about. That's what everything has always been about.
I like to think every communist is motivated not by loyalty to the state (even if its the state of the workers), but to the workers themselves. The state is just a passing thing. A tiny blip in the history of humanity
You could argue it ultimately was for the people, but one of the most memorable and widely used slogans during the war was Za rodinu, za Stalina! literally meaning "For the Motherland, for Stalin!".
Of course people don't cry "for the state!" as in "for the apparatus of class repression and bureaucracy!", but when they cry "for my country!" they're not exclusively chanting "for my peoples and close ones!"
This definition is good because it makes dying for the US even worse, because there is no group of incurious unenlightened backwards "people" more unworthy of your self sacrifice.
My country is the international working class
If your nations is occupied or partitioned, then the national question is easy to answer. Your immediate contradiction in the way of socialist progress is national liberation.
im only asking a question. you got it all wrong if u dont think communists loved their countries sometimes
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WHy the fuck would I be? - signed, an american
Treason is the most based crime
Of course, being a traitor to the Great Satan is good and based, it's just that I never signed up to be one of his minions. Which makes me not a traitor. I'm pleading not guilty if they come for me, much good that will do me.
Loyalty to 
is treason against life.
I HATE my country and actively root for its obliteration. I'm an 
so I'm not really a fan of any country, but there will always be a "special" place of HATE within my blackened heart for , and I'm instinctively distrustful of settlers until they show me reason to trust them.
Death to , and I hope the going hurts like hell for the supporters of
when this vile project collapses.
I have no love for the nationalistic bourgeoisie project that I happened to be born into.
If there is a future United Council Republics of Turtle Island (or Federated Communes of Turtle Island), I'm loyal to that.
I swear loyalty only to the proletariat
No. My only loyalty is to those who stand with the oppressed and keep the robber barons at bay. Not the bourgeois state that opposes everything I stand for.
fuck no lol what kind of loser shit is this
My country is the largest perpetrator of human suffering in living memory so, no
I'll serve crack before I serve my country
Countries are just arbitrary borders drawn in blood. At the end of the day, we're all just people living on the same planet.
You know, I keep looking for the line between Canada and the US and I just can't find it! You'd think it would be easier to see, beginning to think it's just made up.
My ancestors used to reside on that border, location depending on the time of year because that’s how they lived back then. Then the Europeans came and drew their line and my ancestors said “fuck it” and smuggled shit across said border because we had family on both sides.
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How can I be loyal to a concept that literally arbitrarly divides the working class?
Never felt any emotional attachment to the country I was born in.
It always felt really weird to “be a national”. Like for it to matter at all.
You don’t control where you’re born. I always felt it made more sense to create an attachment to things you develop a taste for.
And it felt like mass scale Stockholm syndrome for people to be so in love with the place they were born in.
This made me violently reject my native country when I went through an angry teenager phase. Now I appreciate it. But just like I appreciate any other country or thing.
I think I’m too autistic to understand the concept of a country and I can’t be loyal to something I don’t understand
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I would love to see my country become socialist, but for it to become so it must cease to be the country it is. It is vile, nationalistic, terroristic. So ultimately I am not loyal to it, but loyal to a future that may yet come to pass.
I am appreciative of the ecology that surrounds me. I care about the working class people that live around me (and across the planet). The governmental structures do not exist for my benefit in most situations. I care about the local services that maintain the day to day existence of my city/county, but at the state/nation level there is little reason for me to consider loyalty. The power structures at these higher tiers are so removed from me, they are much like the executives and board members of so many wealthy and influential corporations. These superstructures serve the interests of capital in direct opposition to my interests in almost every situation.
No lol
fuck no
Nice try FBI. I mean, uhh, I'm 100% loyal to my nation and to our benevolent overlord the United States, without whom we would be uhh, in trouble somehow, yeah, thankful for all the protecting us by selling us such wonderful submarines.
The only two things I'm "loyal" to are the roughly 12 kilometer radius immediately surrounding my house, and the world in general. That is all: nothing more, nothing less. I only really care about the arbitrary lines on a world map that determine which holidays I get off work, to the extent that I'm circumstantially forced to by the practical needs of political organization in the face of millennia-old historical forces way beyond my control.
I'm loyal to God, country and John Wayne. 😤
No
by 'loyal', does it mean being loyal to the corrupt capitalist state or the people around me?
It's a very complicated position in the Philippines because of the associated progressive nature of anti-imperialism, but I do lean not loyal in a sense that I will treat a country like any governing body, able to be criticized and democratically decided upon. I'm not jingoistic and chauvinistic about my country and would eventually want it be under a 'World Soviet Republic'.
Philippines because of the associated progressive nature of anti-imperialism
Hm... Aren't the Philippines being armed right now to fight alongside the US and Japan in the upcoming Imperialist War? I'm confused.
Basically, if you're patriotic, according to our progressive movements, you're anti-US and anti-China, and the trapos (corrupt politicians) are being controlled by China (supposedly the Duterte side) and US (Marcos side).
Currently, the anti-China sentiment is strong but the anti-US, not so much, due to the current government, but it's growing with Pax Silica.
Though, yes, the US is still arming the Philippines and still has it's bases.
It's weird. Patriotism is being used as a rallying cry for all sides, but the most 'genuine' that doesn't rely on an external power, i.e. PRC or US, is the current progressive movement, and is by this, is anti-imperialist in nature, in my opinion.
To a country? No. I have a deep and abiding loyalty to Turtle Island and its inhabitants
I am an inhabitant of the planet Earth, my loyalty is to the living things which inhabit it and the continued restoration of its ecosystems
Countries come and go, but even if humanity goes extinct, the Earth will endure
Maybe the cephalopods will have a better go at things
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I am currently unfortunately located in the US. New England, specifically, which provides the one boon of having a very pretty environment. Not that that really cheers me up becuase it just reminds me of how climate change will destroy all of it within my lifetime. Anyone who would be loyal to this, either its repressive murderous imperialistic governance or its empty vacuous unthinking populous, is a dog of the lowest order.
I despise amerikkka, both for (insert massive non-exhaustive list of countries they've obliterated here) and for molding me into an ignorant, cowardly, sedentary ball of flesh who's too callous and servile to use my many privileges to actually improve the world. At the same time, I feel like it's the only country I'm capable of (mis)functioning in, and I don't think anywhere on Earth would benefit from welcoming my burgerself into its borders.
I'm loyal to my community and that's it
No
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