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[–] toasteecup@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Cory Doctorow Lazy

Hahahaha that's rich

[–] crsu@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'd like to see him do a shift at the warehouse and not get fired

[–] toasteecup@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

So let me get this right, you'd like to see a guy who has a background in software and has done more advocation for better intellectual property rights, better regulation of corporations and general user roghts than eother of us will likely ever accomplish in our lifetimes.

And you like to put this guy into a warehouse and see him not get fired?

...Wat.

[–] nodsocket@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I agree with you. If a person cannot spend 8 hours a day lifting boxes in a warehouse then they are of no value to society. Simple as that.

[–] Neato@kbin.social 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This needs explanation. Enshittification is a very cromulent word.

[–] Masterblaster@kbin.social 9 points 10 months ago

^this guy gets it

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And another post where he goes into what enshittification means exactly.

It's a good word that encapsulates the exploitative goal of platform economies.

This is enshittification: surpluses are first directed to users; then, once they're locked in, surpluses go to suppliers; then once they're locked in, the surplus is handed to shareholders and the platform becomes a useless pile of shit.

In fact, enshittification is the reason for the Reddit migration to Lemmy. I wouldn't be here otherwise, probably.

[–] QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

I found it to be brilliant and very succinct. I love that blog. :)

[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 10 months ago

It's an unpopular opinion community, not an unpopular statement with no context community.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Definitely an unpopular opinion.

However, the fact that you're using it to just insult people, it's lame as hell

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 7 points 10 months ago

Bingo. Downvotes aren't because they don't like the term.

Downvotes are because they feel they need to insult people to feel better about themselves

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 14 points 10 months ago

And "stupid" is an ableist word used by lazy people who also don't care about throwing disabled people under the bus. ¯\(ツ)

[–] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Likely a popular opinion: @whosiearth@lemmy.ca is mostly a troll who seems, in his history, to adopt contrarian views just to get a response, thus disguising from himself the emptiness that rings hollowly where he once had a life.

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Got a better word for the same phenomenon?

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

deterioration

decay

demise

corrosion

adulteration

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

None of those capture the same meaning. Doing something "shitty" has the meaning that it's not just bad or inferior. It's deliberately malicious. and "shit" being the root word in "enshittification" imparts an essence of the same meaning.

Most of these suggestions make it sound like the products/services/apps/whatever in question are kindof inevitably breaking down over time in a way that makes them less useful rather than being leveraged in hostile ways to fuck over their own customers. "Adulteration" at least has a feeling of deliberate sabotage to it, but it still doesn't capture the customer hostility.

Plus, those words aren't unique enough on their own. I'd probably want to prefix them with something else like "platform" or something. "Platform deterioration" for instance.

If I were to come up with an alternative to "enshittification" that captured what I thought was important, maybe something like "creeping capitalistic customer-directed hostile service changes," but that's a mouthful and excludes some things I might consider "enshittification". What about "profit-driven corporate dick moves that make products and services permanently less useful to consumers?"

I dunno. "Enshittification" seems pretty perfect, I think. Everybody knows what it means. Everybody knows it when they see it. Companies do it constantly. And we've needed the term for a long time. It's good that we have it now, I think.

[–] the_q@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago
[–] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I can't tell if it's down voted for not being an unpopular idea or not.

[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 10 points 10 months ago

I would guess that it’s being downvoted because it’s just a statement - not a well explained idea. The post itself seems lazy, not the word that’s being criticized with no reason given.