You can't just say Sharia law and expect a new seat assignment.
I didn't say it, I invoked it.
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You can't just say Sharia law and expect a new seat assignment.
I didn't say it, I invoked it.
I'll try to invoke shakira law next time to try to get an upgrade to business class
Doesn’t Shakira use a private jet?
I DEMAND to sit next to Shakira!
I INVOKE my right to sit next to Shakira!
Any hips caught lying will be put to death
WAKA WAKA the plane has been diverted to Africa.
Fuck misogynistic twerps and assholes who give flight attendants and other kinds of service workers a hard time, but this story would not be getting signal boosted by rags like the Daily Mail and New York Post if it wasn't a Muslim immigrant being accused
Misogynistic religions should be cancelled for their misogyny.
Fuck them, fuck the misogynistic dress code, and fuck this asshole for assuming his backwards fucking religion applies to free and more enlightened countries like Germany.
"I prefer that men who assault flight attendents not be muslim" -news outlets owned by rich christians who believe 99% of what sharia law muslims believe
There aren't many non Muslims who would try to use Sharia law..
They use use regular laws and systemic oppression in the white, western world. There was a time in the white western world where only good looking, single women could be flight attendants. There was a time in the white, western world, that my grandmother remembers, where she wasn't allowed to have a credit card without a husband or father to co-sign.
Meanwhile, in the middle east, even good looking, single white women still have to cover up everything from head to toe in 120°F weather.
I'll pick the law set that at least acknowledges its faults and isn't 2000 years behind the times.
Where do you live that the legal process isn't corrupt and biased? Besides, it isn't a matter of choosing between bad and worse. The only reason any system has progressed is through recognizing the faults and pushing, sometimes violently, for change.
This is especially important because, as we've since in the U.S, we can lose rights much more easily than gaining them.
Where do you live that the legal process isn’t corrupt and biased?
It's not black and white. It's a gradient.
You seem to be arguing that the Muslim-controlled countries are somehow the same as the western world, because where Muslim countries would fallback to religious dictatorships and Sharia law enforcement, the western world replaces that with "regular laws and systemic oppression".
I'm arguing that the sort of worldview lacks a metric fuckton of nuance. Muslim-controller countries are still centuries behind the times of free and democratic countries, in terms of social moralities and minority acceptance.
he refused to sit next to a woman, citing Sharia law, and later assaulted a female flight attendant who intervened.
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Authorities identified the suspect only as a Turkish national living in Germany.
That level of disrespect for the values of a democracy should get you expelled IMO.
This is an extreme level of sexist discrimination, that goes against fundamental values of a modern democracy.
This kind of people is not fit to live in a democracy.
Fining him and maybe even sending him to jail for a few months will not teach such a person anything, but will only radicalize him further against the values of democracy.
Good — now do all the religious zealots — like Christian or Jewish extremists.
“Christian extremists” always leaves a bad taste in my mouth. A real Christian extremist would be giving away everything they owned and responding to all violence with pacifism. I think Christofascism usually fits better.
I hate the "those extremists are not REAL members of my religion" rhetoric. We shouldn't forget that christianity also tells us to stone gay men to death, that slavery is good if the victims are from other nations, and that women should subject themselves to their husbands. The European slavers of the past were some of the most horrible people in history, and they were very christian too as they followed these rules to a tee. They did break the laws about respecting your fellow man, sure, but the inverse can be said of the christians who are decent people. They adhere the love thy neighbour rules, but break the rules that say that they should stone gay men. This means that the decent christians are much better people, but not necessarily more or less christian than the slavers of the past.
So if you are a christian and you feel bad by this association, I suggest that, instead of defending your relegion, you re-evaluate it.
Eh, fascists are a kind of extremist. Every religion has good and bad parts and for some reason when you hear about extremists in the news it's always people who go hard on the bad parts.
Weird to only make that distinction for Christians, as if it's the only religion with lofty ideals. An extremist Muslim who's fervently committed to jihad would be someone who's really dedicated to self-control, charity, and protecting the vulnerable.
I wish there were more "extremists" that were like that.
As I recently learned: there were people like that, for example Waldians. There policy of forgiveness, giving to the poor and supporting each other didn't sit right with the clergy and nobleman, so they terrorised them and persecuted them e.g. via the Spanish inquisition.
IIRC, an ultra-orthodox Jewish passenger tried something similar on an El Al flight a few years ago, and made the news.
I totally trust a site called Townflex, whose four site categories are Entertainment, News, Net Worth, and Lyrics. Seriously. Lyrics.
Oh but wait, they got the information from Bild, that ultra objective totally reliable German tabloid, so that means definitely happened.
Someone's pushing Townflex hard here. So far, it's worthless slop.
Officials said the man also insulted federal police officers during questioning. According to authorities, he made the remarks in Turkish without realizing that one of the interviewing officers understood the language.
I mean, even aside from that, I suspect that they're probably wearing bodycams...
I’m proud that I guessed Germany from this quote. What an idiot (for multiple reasons)
I wish I knew how to get billions of people to care about anything that actually matters as much as they care about the made-up rules of their imaginary friend club.
Ignoring all the other problems, a turkish man referring to sharia law is like an anarchist referring to the bible.
Huh
Turkey is a secular country, no sharia law there
*was
searches
It sounds like they have gender-segregated seating on public transport.
Hey travelers! Ever booked a seat on public transport and had to specify your gender? Well, welcome to Turkey! In this unique travel experience, seating next to someone of the opposite sex is a bit of a no-no, unless you book together.
Trains: Clear as Day
Turkey’s train system doesn’t beat around the bush. Try booking seats next to someone of the opposite sex, and bam! You’re hit with a clear message saying, “Not allowed.” They’re serious about keeping guys and gals in their separate travel lanes.
Buses: No Mix and Match
Now, buses take it up a notch. Most systems won’t even let you book seats next to the opposite sex. No ifs, ands, or buts. It’s a full-on restriction. Talk about keeping things strictly platonic on the road!
Sure, some argue it’s about passenger comfort and safety. But seems not everyone’s on board with this gender-segregated journey. Critics say it’s a buzzkill for personal freedom. Solo travelers, especially those outside traditional gender norms, might find it a tad awkward or downright frustrating.

Should have asked him to step outside until he calms down.
Jewish folk have refused to sit near a woman on flights in the past as well, though I didn't think attacking crew members was involved
This was the one I was thinking of but apparently it's not uncommon
The fight attendant should have called "Parlay" as this guy is obviously a sky pirate pulling these shenanigans...
Eh, it’s more of a guideline than a rule.
Happens with other religious nutters, too. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/26/flight-delayed-men-refuse-sit-next-to-women
The ultra-orthodox follow a strict policy of gender segregation and, in Israel, have insisted that women ride at the back of buses.
trash religion.
Very true. In this case though, it's a fabricated story. The airline has publicly stated that this didn't happen. It's only been reported by a far right German rag, and re-reported by other right wing media. This also is close to election time in Germany and stories like this help push their agenda.
This shouldn't be shocking to anyone who pays attention. Every 2 years in america there's some impending migrant crisis that evaporated around November 5th, like migrant caravans and such.