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Most noteworthy for me is the fact that more Americans think that porn (52%) and homosexuality (39%) are wrong than spanking children (23%) and being ultra wealthy (18%).
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https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2026/03/19/what-do-americans-consider-immoral/
The submission says that this is a list of moral priorities, like itβs a list of what the American people think is most immoral to least immoral.
But it sounds like the data is listing what things are most widely agreed on to be immoral, to least agreed upon. Which is not the same thing.
I think Iβm heading back toward gambling being morally wrong. I mean, itβs not, but it can be self-destructive, and willingly work with immoral entities - most companies that profit from gambling are exploiting peopleβs weaknesses to harm them. Thatβs a whole lot of immoral all over a mildly amusing activity
Gambling is addictive and can ruin lives.
America is a fascinating place to me
Less people think being gay is wrong than having an abortion?
How progressive
How is eating meat not morally wrong? Or not a moral issue?
Like genuinely does anyone understand how someone could think that?
The downvotes on this are both funny and telling. I like it so its good. Asking if its bad is bad.
I'm actually starting to see the point in a weird way. If they think about as critically as a dog or a cat maybe it doesn't make sense to hold their decisions to a higher moral standard.
I have a milk cow and it dies of old age. Would it be morally wrong for me to eat it? Just throwing the meat away is morally right?
It's not a question on how the animals are treated. It's just the morality of eating meat.
Sure but 99.99% of store meat is not this. Its factory farmed animals stacked in pens living in their own piss and shit their entire lives just before they are slaughtered young
I'm not entirely sure, but I have heard the argument that we kill everything we eat to live.
I've had someone try to tell me that plants feel pain and scream when they die.
Okay dawg, but I know I'd rather mow my lawn than mow over a field of puppies.
I'm not entirely dismissive of the argument. I do think it has a point. Why do pigs get to live? Because they look vaguely like us? Fuck you wheat! You eyeless, legless monstrosity! I don't care how much you enjoy swaying in the wind and basking in the sun. You're literally toast!
Everything wants to live and is afraid to die. But I do agree dying screaming pigs is much more unsettling than millions of wheat stalks getting slaughtered by a combine.
It's food. We have to eat to live.
I can eat you therefore kiling and eating you is not morally wrong or a moral issue.
Plenty of people donβt eat any meat and live just fine?
I am very interested as to how they make these decisions. What framework leads them to believe these things? What is their reasoning here? I understand that it might not be reasoned, but if it is reasoned then it may be fascinating to know how these conclusions were reached.
I really don't understand how people can reconcile this kind of data with a positive opinion of humanity
40% of people saying 'spanking children is not a moral issue' is probably the worst datapoint here. At least 4 in 10 people are fully just animals blundering around operating on instinct and following what feels good. And that's not even counting the other people whose idea of morality is just 'what is my visceral reaction' who had a visceral reaction.
I get porn might not be healthy, especially porn addiction. But I do not get why it is morally wrong.
The industry is exploitative.
The US population has some messed up opinions
When I'm her death, and suffering intolerably, it's immoral for me to check out 2 weeks early? They'd rather see me continue suffering
A fetus has a genetic abnormality that will ensure the child will suffer for years and then die a horrible death? Sorry, abortion is morally wrong! The baby will have to suffer!
Come to think of it, most of these fucked up opinions are religion driven. Imaginary Jeebus said it was wrong, so that settles it!
Can't afford a baby? Doesn't matter, the baby must be born, it would be immoral to abort. Once the baby is born, though, fuck that baby, we don't care, we won't help you raise it you slut, you should have controlled those sinful urges!
The US is such a fucked up place
ITT a good reminder that Lemmy is an echo chamber
I dunno it seems to match up with what most of my IRL friends believe in.
lemmy or the chart?
IRL trust fund pretend progressives match up with a lot of lemmy talking points.
but most normal working middle class people i know, are far more moderate and way less angry. because they are mostly focused on problems in their own lives and don't have time for agonizing about federal politics of the issues in other states that don't impact them. they are mostly interested in good economic policy, education, infrastructure, and corruption in their local/state politics because that is what impacts their day to day life.
the hot topics here, like palestine, trans rights, war in iran, are not something they really think about because it has nothing to do with them and is very abstract and distance from them. all the really know about this stuff is that weirdo angry people shout about it a lot on the TV/radio, and they think it's annoying and pointless because it has nothing to do with anything in their life and they are angry that all this nonsense is being shoved down their throats when they just want better schools and roads and job opportunities.
the hot topics here, like palestine, trans rights, war in iran,
Notably, none of those things are on the chart.
Lemmy for sure. I feel like a lot of my friends are passionate about trans issues because they are trans, but most people I know generally have a pretty negative sentiment about the war on Iran. Oh and they all love to talk about the Epstein files.
A lot of my coworkers even have a soft spot for Linux. And it feels like half the people in my life are autistic, have ADHD, or both.
They want better schools and roads while voting down every millage because 'my taxes' and voting for people that are actively working to destroy public education.
Makes sense.
Fuck puritans.
Doggystyle
It makes sense that in the country were Death Penalty is considered less morally wrong than Viewing Pornography or Homosexuality, most people support (or at least don't care about) Israel mass murdering children for the "crime" of being born Palestinian.
That moral priority alone says that for most Americans, life is less sacred than what people do with their sexy bits alone or with consenting adults.
No wonder America keeps making war and killing millions.
Most nuanced take, clearly based upon a deep understanding of American culture and politics. We are all just bad people who love war and genocide. There isnβt one party that gave all the power to check the president away and let him do whatever he wants, and there arenβt protests with millions of people regularly happening because we all love it.
Spare me the "American-style simpleton-politics for people who have no clue how real Democracy looks like" bullshit - the last guy which was of the "other side" in your hyper-reductive 2D fake-democracy theater system was sending 2000 lb bombs (which the American Military itself won't use because of their high collateral damage) to Israel to blow up little children with.
There were no big demonstrations against it.
Same thing back when Obama was blowing up weddings and killed so many innocents that he changed the definition of "enemy" to be any male between the ages of 14 and 60 so that the numbers didn't look so bad.
There were no big demonstrations against it either. Hell, plenty of American mindless tribalist followers of that "side" of America's Theatrical "Democracy" still laud Obama as a great man and a great president.
The reason why there are big demonstrations against the current one is that he's doing in America the shit that the others mainly did or supported abroad.
Little brown kids being mass murdered was fine for most Americans as long as they themselves were ok.
It's the country were "I'm alright Jack" is the most important "Moral" "compass" for most people.
Last I checked Ds and Rs support Israeli genocide. Or if its too recent for you just rewind and you will find obama droning down whole wedding parties because someone didnt support US hegemony (aka was a "terrorist"). Of course Bush committed war crimes all throughout the Middle East too. Voting Blue harder isn't going to fix your problems
Here's the functional basis of my system of morality:
isDeceitful() ? immoral : moral;
Try viewing that list through this lens. I don't give a shit about peoples' choices if they don't have an appreciable halo effect.
Mine is based on the consent and consensus of the other sentient beings involved. For example, drinking alcohol around people who are cool with you being intoxicated, or doing it alone, is perfectly fine. Getting blackout drunk around people who do not consent to taking care of you is not.
All forms of hierarchical authority are never moral because they always violate consent and consensus. All governments, corporations, and organized religions are immoral.
Surprise parties
Magic tricks