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[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 95 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I kinda thought of it as, "My native tongue is as ancient as the seas, as foundational as the mountains, as incomprehensible to you as the stars are to ants. Anyway, 2000 years ago I had to hire a guy to translate that into one of your languages just so you people could sign a fucking contract. It was a huge mess, guy took twice as long as he quoted me, legal department rejected it three times before it go approved, the whole thing went way over budget. Long story short, I'm not updating the paperwork. You can Google it if you want the fine print."

[–] dragonbringerx@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

...and using that for my next dnd campaign! Thanks!

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

LOL, I'm honored, thanks!

[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago

His legal templates are all in Latin, his production code is all in COBOL, etc.

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Honestly, I think Sumerian or Akkadian would be better but Latin does have its charms.

[–] wraekscadu@vargar.org 51 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Ehh honestly, can't something as powerful and as long lived as Satan just... Know all spoken languages?

Imagine Satan trying to seduce you, but unable to buy your soul because he can't speak your language fluently. Would be a funny setup, but kinda lame

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 33 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

So if you were like a terminally online furry would Satan be all uwu *buys your soul*

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 26 points 3 weeks ago

notices your soul OwO what's this?

[–] wraekscadu@vargar.org 6 points 3 weeks ago

That would be kinda hot ngl

[–] BucketBong@p.hobo.social 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Satan: vende mihi animam tuam pro maximo desiderio

Me: what's this about my verandah?

Satan: vende mihi animam tuam pro maximo desiderio

Me: Sorry, I... I got to get going, I got an appointment, hope you get help with whatever the fuck you need.

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[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, for the Western world, classical Latin has a kind of mystique or vibe that other languages don't. People fear the grammar and classical pronunciation is just different enough (all c's are pronounced as "k") to make it sound familiar and foreign.

[–] Quexotic@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago

Interesting point, so it kind of puts it in the uncanny valley of language.

familiar foreign spooky.

[–] Steve@communick.news 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Most versions I've seen in TV and movies can.
I'd assume all celestials can speak all languages ever created.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

That's incredibly offensive.

Implying that a holy being could speak french makes me wanna barf

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Don’t worry, he only speaks Québécois

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

I feel like Odin would know French, not because he wanted to but because he got lost and ended up picking it up for insult purposes.

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[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Have you seen Akkadian? Shits got like 300 letters. Latin was definitely the upgrade.

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

One of my professors could read Akkadian. He had to master Biblical Hebrew before being allowed to begin studying Akkadian. He said he had hundreds of flashcards and spent at least an hour every day studying them - aside from doing his regular coursework.

I took 25 credit hours each of Biblical Hebrew and Latin, and I am quite content never having attempted Akkadian.

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, if I was Satan, that would have been the earliest utterance of the phrase 'fuck that shit'.

[–] bunkyprewster@startrek.website 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Aramaic seems like it was a big deal for a while

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[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes but how many Sumerian or Akkadian grimoires survive today in their original language?

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Nowhere as many as Latin. As far as ancient languages, Egyptian magical texts definitely outnumber Akkadian and Sumerian.

A large number of surviving Akkadian texts are commercial or official records. The most famous is probably the complaint against Ea Nasir.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Unfortunately we know what latin sounds like (though most of hollywood has only a vague concept), and nobody speaks ancient Egyptian of Akkadian.

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[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago

Unless Ea Nasir was carving scarabs and magic squares on his copper, I don't think that counts as a magical text.

I'm aware of the Chaldean Oracles, but they don't survive in their original language. I think the oldest surviving translations are in Greek or Arabic.

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I once experienced an episode of sleep paralysis with auditory hallucinations. I heard a deep masculine voice speaking in a guttural language that seemed just on the edge of being comprehensible to me. As if it were the primeval language from which all others sprang. The feel of the language in my ear was as familiar as my native tongue. I recognized the cadence, I could discern where one word ended and the next began, whether a sentence was a question, and so forth. But the words themselves were somehow alien.

I strained my senses trying to hear the voice more clearly. What horrible prophesy was I being given? What dreadful task have I been appointed? Am I the keymaster? The antichrist? Am I dying? Oh shit, that's it, isn't it? I'm dying and going to hell. Fuckfuckfuck. Um. I accept Jesus as my savior? ...Buddha? ...Joe Pesci?

Then I snapped out of it and the voice turned out to be the muffled sound of my neighbor's TV. Praise be to Joe Pesci!

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 4 points 3 weeks ago

guttural tv sounds beyond my comprehensions

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I have a wall in my head that won't accept this as funny because it entirely misses what Satanism is.

It's a response to Christianity, and in its oldest forms, Catholicism. So, the Latin bit should be the default. There wouldn't have been Satanists that were using Aramaic or whatever. Hell, anyone engaging in the equivalent of satan worship from before the creation of satan in the form religious Satanists do worship could have spoken anything from their era anyway.

It's not like there's a ton of examples of satan dictating holy (or unholy) books, but he/she/it would still have spoken the the dark prophets in their own tongue. Why the fuck would you speak Enochian to some random Babylonian? You'd speak Babylonian.

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

I mean (many of) the earliest Bibles were in Coptic (which is still used liturgically by some of the oldest Orthodox churches). Christianity also really inherited that form of dualism more from the Zoroastrians so Avestan is another great option. But if you want to come from the Judaic roots yeah babylon was the origin of the major opposing deities in Judaism's early monolatrist perspective so especially if you're fighting the Abrahamic God with Baal that would be your main pick.

Side Rant: It really cannot be overstated how much the Catholic church really fucked up Christianity. It was originally a syncretistic anti imperialist death cult (in that you would martyr yourself by publicly accepting death over imperialism). If I ever got a time machine Athanasius of Alexandria is much higher on my list than Hitler. It's not even that I'm specifically opposed to trinitarianism—the number three does seem significant to some universal truth across numerous cultures (Plato's chariot, Taoist three elements of destiny, even Freud to name a few)—but killing people en masse over it is unspeakable. And to have subsequent traditions who were supposedly otherwise anti-catholic in any other respect still specifically follow in the tradition of murder for some reason is ridiculous.

[–] toynbee@piefed.social 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Reading this comment finally helped me understand why new lemmings complain about the prevalence of Linux users here.

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[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 3 points 3 weeks ago

The Old Testament was written in Hebrew.

The New Testament was written in Koine Greek.

The Copts speak a descendant language of Egyptian.

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[–] BoJackHorseman@lemmy.today 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Satan speaks Hebrew in our world.

Hey, aren't you that horse from horsing around?

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Latin is the best language though

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Which is why it's spoken all over the world today!

I mean yeah, it is spoken all over the world today!

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

Uhh, billions of years?

The Bible is centered around just 10,000 or less years of total universal history, from what I've seen.

I don't believe that, I'm just explaining the dogma here.

[–] nieminen@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

To be totally fair, Satan and the whole pantheon would have existed for essentially infinite time before earth came about, so I think the point still stands

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 8 points 3 weeks ago

Well it’s the ecclesiastical language of Christianity, and the Satanic cults depicted are typically couched in Biblical mythology.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Why not, worked for the church

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

It is the christian language though... A while ago the bible was in latin.

Edit: the catholic bible

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 3 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

The Bible was written in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek.

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[–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 5 points 3 weeks ago

this is because Satan tries to mimic God and the lsnguage of the Roman Catholic Church is Latin.

[–] pomegranatefern@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I expect that the idea is to be a dark mirror of Catholic masses (Black Masses, etc.) but this somehow brings to mind the mental image of a Satanist Martin Luther nailing a list of 95 grievances to the door of some wicked temple and translating the Black Mass into German for the accessibility of the common Satanist folks who don't know Latin.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe 4 points 3 weeks ago

I mean, the amount of legal Latin used in anglophone countries does bolster the argument.

E.g. prima facie, mens rea, stare decisis, etc.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Lately Hell has changed to Esperanto.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 4 points 3 weeks ago

"Uuuh..." -- The Pope.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Same with Enigma.

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (8 children)

Christians think the Earth is 6,000 years old.

Those who accept the science, and the of the age of the universe, were tricked by Satan, who placed the dinosaur bones in the ground and fucking magic'd them, so when they're carbon dated, they seem ancient.

Also the Earth is flat, obviously.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 8 points 3 weeks ago

Uh... modern young earth creationism is pretty much an American thing, and modern flat earth beliefs only became a thing in the mid-19th century. I know Lemmy likes to dunk on Christians, but this is historically illiterate.

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