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[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 178 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The old pope died of cringe when he met Vance so I'd consider this a threat.

[–] SarcasticMan@lemmy.world 132 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Oh yes, world renowned theologian James David Vance foremost expert on theol...wait theology is when you fuck couches right?

[–] lime@feddit.nu 77 points 2 months ago (10 children)

i thought his name was jance dance vance

[–] drolex@sopuli.xyz 22 points 2 months ago

What's wrong Jance Dance? You barely janked the jouch?

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[–] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 111 points 2 months ago (11 children)

Isn't the Pope supposed to be the guy for Catholics, appointed to directly hear God's voice on Earth, and spread it to the masses? And if that's the case, aren't all these faux-Christians disagreeing with him - like Vance - disagreeing with the very God they purport to worship?

[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 103 points 2 months ago

Catholics can disagree with the pope on secular matters, the problem here is that the pope is quoting the catechism almost verbatim, and convert-boy is throwing a tantrum because he joined the church based on aesthetics and not any kind of conviction.

[–] Infrapink@thebrainbin.org 52 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A bunch of Protestants think the Pope is the Antichrist, but apparently Vance identifies as Catholic, so yeah, he's defying God. Catholic doctrine also holds that the Pope is infallible when ruling on theology.

[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The latter is not universal. Several popes have explicitly stated that they are indeed fallible (which would render total infallibility self-contradictory). Also, infallibility is generally limited in certain ways that I won't bother researching in enough depth to put into a concise description. But the pope can't just make up some random shit and have it automatically considered to be the word of God.

Of course, pointing out that someone violates the basic tenets of Catholicism while naming those specific tenets is well within "the pope is right" territory.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Pretty sure the infallibility part is only when he speaks "ex cathedra" which is a pretty narrow and specific time, but I'm not a Catholic.

A quick Google says the last time that was done was in 1950.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The man converted to catholicism then within a few years was beefing with two popes in a row on basic catholicism.

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[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 91 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Did they forget to give him the brochure when he converted to Catholicism?

[–] LordMayor@piefed.social 12 points 2 months ago

Right? Is he not treading excommunication territory with this shit?

Lay Catholics aren’t supposed to challenge the Pope like that. Even Cardinals wouldn’t get away with saying something so obnoxious.

[–] dumbass@piefed.social 65 points 2 months ago

I've killed a pope before and I'll do it again! - J.D 'Couch Fucker' Vance

[–] dizzle18@lemmy.zip 59 points 2 months ago (5 children)

JD literally woke up one morning and decided to debate theology with the fucking Vicar of Christ.

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

INNNNN THIS CORNER, wearing all white and a skull cap, he's the Vicar of Christ, the Bishop of Rome, the SUCCESSOR to the Price of the Apostles, iiiiiiiIIIITS POPE LEO THE FOURTEENTH!!

And in THIS CORNER, wearing a tailored suit and red tie, Couch fucker, white trash cosplayer and world's worst negotiator, John Dilbert Vaaaaaaance!

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[–] Korkki@lemmy.ml 51 points 2 months ago (5 children)

yikes. Said by a converted catholic.

[–] CobraChicken3000@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 months ago

Right! Get a hold of the new guy, here! 🤣

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[–] matlag@sh.itjust.works 50 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Look, they already decided they knew science better than scientists, they knew war better than military generals, they knew economy better than economists.

Why did aynone think they would stop at theology?

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[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 47 points 2 months ago (6 children)

The utter fucking nerve of these assholes.

I'm not even a christian anymore, Catholic or otherwise. In fact I've long since gone full on athiest.

But even I'M offended by this new level of horseshit by the Trump clown-show.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I am with you. I don't believe in what the Pope stands for but also recognize that he is not only the head of state of a foreign government, but the mouthpiece of a significant part of human tradition. This really is like the "fake news" arguments from Trump's first campaign, i.e., "I don't agree with what they say so I will attack them personally."

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 37 points 2 months ago (6 children)

I still find it so fucking funny that this nimrod was the best candidate trumps campaign could find.

[–] nosuchanon@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago

Paid for by Peter Thiel.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 months ago

What does "best" mean in a kakistocracy?

Best, in this case, means Peter Thiel's check cleared.

Also, I'm sure there weren't many candidates for the job, considering Trump tried to get the last guy killed.

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[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago (10 children)

When Vance tells a Pope to be careful, that Pope should be careful. You know, considering Vance's established track record with Popes...

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[–] BillCheddar@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If you're not a Catholic, you might not understand how fucked up it is for Vance to stand there and call the Pope wrong about theology.

By definition, the Pope is right about religion. If he changes his mind tomorrow, he was right then and he is right now.

The equivalent would be if I became a Buddhist and then told the current Dalai Lama he was doing it wrong. Or maybe if I became a Hindu and then insisted that, actually, cheeseburgers are fuckin' awesome.

No joke, Vance is like two more dumbass statements away from being excommunicated.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Arguably, there would be decent historic precedent for excommunicating Vance RIGHT NOW.

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[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The Vatican should be taking threat very seriously. He did kill the last Pope

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 27 points 2 months ago

Shut up, Vance.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 23 points 2 months ago (4 children)

It's be pretty funny if ol' James got excommunicated. Do it, Pope!

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[–] blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 months ago

Beefing with the pope should definitely have been on my bingo card for this administration, I feel stupid for not seeing it coming now.

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 22 points 2 months ago (5 children)

It is a bit like saying a professor of mathematics with 10+ years of experience in teaching calculus should be careful when talking about calculus.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

... from a guy who just heard about calculus for the first time

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[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

That's not how being Pope works. I know this, and I'm not even Catholic.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 16 points 2 months ago

To be fair, declaring war on the pope is a time honoured Christian tradition.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

One of the requirements for being a fascist is being stupid. Vance is no exception to that rule.

[–] TerdFerguson@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Jelly Donut Vance, the master of reverse reasoning.

"Whatever makes sense"

[–] hayvan@piefed.world 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] monk200@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Can't forget that Vance killed the last pope 🤷‍♂️

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[–] TheVoiceOfRaison@thelemmy.club 13 points 2 months ago

Couch Fucker vs The Word of God. I'm not a religious man, but I know who I'd believe.

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

I am an agnostic myself, but one thing I can say for sure, that every time one wants me to say that their religion/beliefs are supreme, the more willing I am to ~~convert~~ switch to atheism. Also all organized religions are bullshit.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 11 points 2 months ago

MAGA has come to the Catholic Church, and we've all seen what happens when MAGA comes to town. If he's smart, the Pope should excommunicate him immediately, and threaten every other MAGA with the same if they don't straighten up.

[–] DioramaOfShit@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Vance needs to be careful when fucking the sofa. There are zippers on those cushions.

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