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[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 62 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's okay, I'll keep eating that garbage

[–] Commiechameleon@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's hard to smoke 200mg of pure thc

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah

Sometimes you want to green the fuck out and wake up two days later feeling like you've been enlightened

[–] ConcreteHalloween@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I tried that once and I just puked and got dizzy

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

Guess i'm just built different

I am, my body is very weird when it comes to drugs

[–] Commiechameleon@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Heard about THC liquor that'll do that to yah

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[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 49 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Okay, and Tylenol doesn't cure a headache. It does help deal with the symptoms though. Cannabis absolutely helps take the edge off of anxiety and depression for me when used occasionally. It doesn't cure the issue but it doesn't mean it's not helpful to take the edge off while I work on more permanent solutions to my problem. Imagine if the only meds on the market were things that completely cure a problem as opposed to just helping someone get through it while they heal or work other solutions. Allergy meds would be gone, cough meds, painkillers, sleeping meds...hell even caffeine should be taken off the market because it doesn't permanently make it so you don't have to sleep it just helps keep you awake for a bit. Even the most popular anti-anxiety, Xanax, doesn't cure anxiety...is also highly addictive...can also lead to a whole host of other things...it's used to deal with either severe anxiety (while you undergo treatment) or acute anxiety in one-off moments like before a stressful procedure or to stop a panic attack.

What an absolutely fucking ridiculous standard to hold something to. Fuck the entire anti weed lobby forever.

[–] Dr_Pepper@hexbear.net 44 points 1 month ago (2 children)

As someone who has abused both alcohol and cannabis, I can say cannabis is much less harmful. However, it's pretty easy to go overboard with it. Like most things in life, it's best in moderation. I enjoy it once or twice a week now, sometimes even less. I think if you're getting drunk or high every day there are probably some other issues at play.

[–] trabpukcip@hexbear.net 33 points 1 month ago (3 children)

if you're getting drunk or high every day there are probably some other issues at play.

Yeah like being cool duane

[–] Dr_Pepper@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago (20 children)

I was being serious and opening up about my struggles. I don't really appreciate this response. The upvotes on this compared to mine makes me think my reservations about coming back here were correct.

[–] very_poggers_gay@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

I'm sorry for this other person's comment. totally bad taste.

I'm reading over the thread and getting a vibe that a lot of people are having strong reactions to the paper - maybe because some people feel invalidated by the paper? idk. threads like these have particularly bad vibes, and the detached/dismissive irony that is common here can be especially jarring

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[–] fox@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

L reply to someone talking about their own struggles with addiction

[–] XxFemboy_Stalin_420_69xX@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[–] XxFemboy_Stalin_420_69xX@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

if you're getting drunk or high every day there are probably some other issues at play

i feel this so much. (the issue for me is that i live in a capitalist hellscape in which interacting and forming bonds with other humans is actively discouraged)

[–] XxFemboy_Stalin_420_69xX@hexbear.net 39 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

the drugs that people take to deal with their anxiety, depression and PTSD don't actually cure anxiety, depression and PTSD? they just provide relief from the symptoms? no shit eric-andre

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[–] miz@hexbear.net 38 points 1 month ago

I'm doing my own very large study and it has found strong evidence that it works

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 32 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Some limited benefits were seen for conditions like insomnia and autism, but the evidence is weak

That's okay, I didn't need to respect science any less than I already do but thank you

[–] BimboChristmas@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago

Getting stoned will make my autism stronger? Hell yeah

[–] lil_tank@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago

Weed can make me neurotypical?? Better stay away from this shit

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[–] kleeon@hexbear.net 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I was always sceptical of such claims. People just love to justify their substance use with some alleged health benefits. It's like how people used to believe drinking a glass of wine a day was good for you

That said, it should still be legal

[–] mar_k@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

It's not a solution to the underlying problem, it's a temporary reprieve from the symptoms. But escaping your depression for even just a few hours with no real catch (for most) can feel pretty liberating and allow you to process/ catch your breath. And unlike alcohol:

  • No hangover or worsening aftermath
  • Relatively low potential for addiction
  • Doesn't cause mental issues, rarely worsens them
  • No organ damage (except lungs if you smoke instead of edibles)
  • No risk of overdose
  • No increased risk of self-harm or harm to others
  • Can increase empathy & introspection
  • And no brain damage, despite popular myths

Studies have found adult cognitive issues from weed are 1) from extreme, daily use and 2) completely go away after quitting for a month or less. Compared to alcohol, where any amount does a small-to-moderate amount of permanent brain & organ damage that builds over time

I don't think weed is particularly healthy or unhealthy, but if weed culture gets a bunch of depressed people to become stoners who'd otherwise become alcoholics, I see that as a huge win. Alcohol is genuinely as bad if not worse than half the illegal drugs out there. E.g. despite having higher risk of overdose, cocaine actually isn't as harmful as alcohol to your long-term health

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[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago

yeah no shit, it was always about symptom control wasn't it?

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago

Lol I was like didn't we already have a struggle session over this, but it was largely about how shit Contrapoints is now. hahaha

https://hexbear.net/post/8100254

[–] trabpukcip@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Oh really. Remind me which illnesses alcohol helps treat, while enjoying a more free existence than cannabis?

[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 43 points 1 month ago (2 children)

One can argue for social and recreational use of cannabis without the need for it to be medicine

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

One thing legalisation has archived is that these kinds of studies are a lot easier to do now.

[–] DelgadoSlims@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Even if this study is right, cannabis still helps with glaucoma and pain management so it absolutely still is medicine

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[–] peanutbuttercupola@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

delirium tremens, methanol poisoning think-about-it

[–] WokePalpatine@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

xStraightEdgexGanondorfx rises.

[–] WokePalpatine@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago

While you were doing a huge study on cannabis, I did a huge study of the blade.
While you were getting blazed, the sun rose in the sky, and a burning wind punished my lands, searing the world.
While you were imbibing the green, I coveted the winds that blew across the green fields of Hyrule, that brought something other than suffering and ruin.

[–] Dort_Owl@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago (3 children)

My only opinion on weed is that alcohol is far worse for you. Maybe I shouldn't have an opinion though because I haven't smoked weed or drunk alcohol since high school

Wild that something like alcohol is legal. I wonder if the reason is that it's so tied into Anglo culture to be drunk as shit all the time that they can't make it illegal? That shit is so bad for you. I've seen it ruin so many peoples health and mood

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[–] Arahnya@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Implications of all the available evidence Cannabinoids are increasingly being authorised for the treatment of mental disorders and SUDs, yet our review shows little evidence of efficacy. There is a substantial gap between clinical use and available evidence. It is concerning that the use of these treatments could delay or replace the use of more effective therapies. There is a crucial need for improved study design that includes larger and more representative participant samples.

???

all of this really 🤔

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[–] abc@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

editorialized title, mid study, great post comrade this will certainly get a ton of comments where Hexbears confuse personal opinion with fact I have no notes for you


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[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 month ago

There were no significant effects on outcomes associated with anxiety, anorexia nervosa, psychotic disorders, post-traumatic stress disorder, and opioid use disorder. There were insufficient data to meta-analyse studies of ADHD, bipolar disorder, obsessive-compulsive disorder, and tobacco use disorder. There was an absence of RCT evidence for the treatment of depression.

This study, or meta-study, as it's just coalescing existing ones. Found none showed significant benefits, although it sounds like it is more just a lack of evidence rather than evidence of it not helping. Especially with depression. Which makes the headline disingenuous. "No evidence that it treats these" but also we don't have enough evidence to actually say.

[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 14 points 1 month ago

I smoke weed to be high not to help with anything

[–] ConcreteHalloween@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

My issue with cannabis is its effects are super inconsistent on me. I'll take two gummies form the same batch on two different day, one day it will make me feel chill as fuck, the other I'll be doing push ups on my underwear to try and burn off the anxiety.

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[–] blunder@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

Get inside my brain for a few days and then hit my bowl and then say it

[–] tombruzzo@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is this the same 'study' Contrapoints tweeted about?

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[–] Des@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

it gets rid of my gender dysphoria and makes me feel extra femme and comfortable in my skin for a few hours and also focuses my ADHD brain. downside is i get really tired afterward

but since im mostly a before bed user the tired part is useful

never used it to reduce anxiety. seems neutral for me in that regard. also i love how it lets me open up to spirituality and sensory experience still after all these years

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[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago

I think the real science is that there are a bunch of bible thumpers that don't want people to have any fun, and greedy rich people who want slave labor provided by prisons. Fucking gross. I don't give two shits if it helps or not. Stop wasting money to incarcerate people for nonsense and stop enriching sociopaths.

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

I just came in to say that the weed brain image from thw thumbnail should be an emoji, I would've joined this struggle session but then I got high

[–] TheSpectreOfGay@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

i did try to use it to help with anxiety and it didn't do much for me, but i imagine the high would help with anxiety?

it also definitely helps with insomnia for me, but the gummies i take only really make me sleepy and nothing else.

[–] RuthBaderGonesburg@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I have a hard time believing this given the profound anxiety and panic attacks it gives me. It’s clearly doing something to the anxiety part of my brain

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[–] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Wasn't that a meta-analysis, not a study? IIRC it just went over surveys other studies had conducted and collated them into one big analysis.

And I mean I can't stand the stuff personally, it makes me feel hungover as its active effect and even just walking through a room someone's been smoking weed in gives me the start of a headache, so "for most people this doesn't work, or makes them feel worse" is sort of to be expected and is not at odds with "for some people it actually feels good and medicates something in their head". Different people respond differently to different substances, and this seems to be one with a huge individual variance.

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[–] Sulvy@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

Regular overuse definitely messes with my mental health. I was high like 24/7 for a couple years in college and I swear it gave me a heart palpitation.

[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

Long as i can still be high at work i couldn't care less what a study says

[–] homhom9000@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

Who said I wanted it to?

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