Here's the thing: we can't ALL have been the smartest kids in our classes. It's just so unlikely.
We were the generic background idiots in someone else's success story all along.
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Here's the thing: we can't ALL have been the smartest kids in our classes. It's just so unlikely.
We were the generic background idiots in someone else's success story all along.
Maybe I'm like Inspector Gadget. The titular character, but the real protagonist is my niece and her dog.
That's entirely plausible. It's fairly normal even. Thats still well over 10 million people and it's common for people to be in the 95th percentile then go to college and be completely average.
With the barriers to entry that Lemmy has it's not that unlikely. It's like an incel going onto 8chan and saying, we can't all be the most edgy people we know.
According to this website there are only around 40-70k daily active users (monthly vs semiannual). If you look at total users we're sitting on about 1.3 million with 11 million posts per day and 23 million comments per day.
So 0.015% of the world population on an obscure site which is not mainstream accessible.
EDIT: Just because you were one of the smartest people in your class doesn't mean you are "smart." I would argue that it says more about the other kids in your class than it does you, most people are fucking stupid.
See!? I warned you I wasn't the smartest.
And I gotta say I really appreciate it!
Really appreciate it 🥰
I’m born and raised in rural northern Nevada population 4000ish. I barely graduated high school and went straight into a manual labor job. I feel like I’m a goddamn Nostradamus or Albert Einstein here sometime.
Lol :)
I had highschool classmates bragging about driving 80mph down dirt roads and one girl planned to become "richly married" as her career. Maybe we all had dipshits.
Yea... This was the basis for my first existential crisis in my life... All through small town public school I was basically the smartest kid in the room (sometimes smartest person - we had some really bad teachers). Thought I was god's gift of intelligence to humanity. Went out of town to a really good engineering school and holy shit I was immediately humbled. I was clawing my way to try to reach "average" and couldn't quite reach.
My version of this was still being among the smartest people at my good engineering school but realizing I didn't have the discipline to thrive without externally imposed structure. I coasted on skipping classes and catching up just fine my first semester, but that didn't last all that long (a year before I was no longer near the top of any given class, 2 years to where I was struggling to understand because my grasp of the prereqs wasn't as solid).
So it took a few years to learn how the world doesn't inherently reward intelligence for the sake of intelligence, but that intelligence is still a good tool towards accomplishing other things the world does value.
I'm still sometimes the smartest person in the room, but I've learned to stop assigning any value to that fact.
I'm pretty happy these days, and I directly credit my intelligence and introspection for that. Even though the "smart but lazy" label gave me some trouble early on, and I had a little quarter life crisis when I realized that being smart wasn't enough, eventually being thoughtful gave me the flexibility to recover from some setbacks early in my career, has helped me with my social life, helps me manage the day to day life outside of work (finances, chores, hobbies, interests, family life, etc.), and otherwise has helped me set up the things that are important to me and find contentment in a chaotic world. It's certainly a form of intelligence, just productively channeled at some point to make things better for myself.
"A big fish in a little pond", it's how I described my po achievement in my first job out of uni.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big-fish%E2%80%93little-pond_effect
For me, it was realizing that while I was smart, the shit level of schooling was more an impediment to me gaining the skills needed to continue excelling and I continue to be surrounded by absolute dipshits wherever I go.
In school, I didn't have to study to pass and there was no real incentive to learn how to. This bit me when it came to university because the lectures didn't cover everything that was to be tested on. Turns out, trying is a skill I never needed until then.
Then, in the workforce, I'm constantly exhausted dealing with people who are at best functionally literate and I have to cater to their understanding of literally everything. No desire to either understand the problem or fix the root cause, just make the thing do what they want right then.
school is kinda bullshit to be honest
The infuriating thing is that it doesn't have to be. It's been gutted, filleted, and various other words of a similar effect over the decades to the detriment of the entire populous
Did I write this last night in my sleep?
I just told this exact story to my oldest yesterday, almost verbatim. Freaky.
There are dozens of us!
That’s what we call an average fish suffocating in a puddle
One of the asian ones is a frog in a well. Though it carries more the connotation of Dunning-Kreuger,, though more due to environment and experience vs a mental condition.
A bad teacher can stunt you. I always wanted to make video games, but my high school programming teacher's style didn't mesh. Even though I enjoyed the class, he suggested I drop it because he thought I wasn’t a good fit for the field, I reluctantly agreed. Twenty years later, I’ve completed most of the programming for a game I plan to release one day, though I can still picture him tapping the chalkboard every time I asked a question like that was supposed to help...
likewise, i have always been the family tinker/inventor. invented a hydrogen/oxygen fuel cell when i was 8 before i learned they already existed better than i had invented. i went to school, took engineering classes. the intro to CAD teacher was an ableist douche (long story) and publicly stated that it was his intention to weed out anyone he felt was not "worthy" of being in our "noble" (ranked four hundred something nationally) engineering program via his computer drafting program and since grading was almost entirely subjective (75% of each project was for "style" whatever that meant) he got to do that.
weeding out is horrific bullshit. I got weeded out of CS and now I don't get to have a good job
Most programming classes are bullshit. You come out with basic knowledge of practices that aren't used in real production. They teach you how to write code, but they don't teach you how code is written in most businesses.
Outside of actual gaming programs in colleges, new developers are generally bewildered and end up making stuff that's hard to maintain.
We had a professor sit in with us for a few months once to get the gist of what was needed so he could form classes around game deveopment.
Good luck on your game! I was always too dumb to realize if I combine all the stuff I love doing it equals game dev. Only realized a couple years ago and it's the happiest I've ever been.
Honeslty, I thought it was way above my head. Im a social worker so very far from game dev. My friend sorta nice bullied me into it stating all the time anyone can do it the hardest part is getting started. He was right once I started rolling it came together. Now I do it as a hobby after the kids go to bed. I treat it like playing video games, its a creative, problem solving, process that i really enjoy. I honestly believe anyone can make a video game with a good idea!
Opposide for me. I realised i enjoy playing games much more than making them.
But im happy for you that you found a thing you can be passionate about and spend time working on it too.
“You are reading at college level.”
Translation: “You are baseline literate.”
Advanced classes means slightly less stupid. This makes me think of Beijing University. A lot of kids who were considered the brightest and the best in their little towns their parents would go into debt and borrow money from others in the town to send them to Beijing University.
When the kids arrived they'd discover they weren't as smart as they thought they were and they'd flunk out despite studying as hard as they could. And instead of returning home and embarrassing their parents in front of the other townspeople they'd kill themselves.
You know I heard a quote one time that said if you're the smartest person in the room you're in the wrong room. But at the same time my parents always told me whatever I did I needed to be the best at it. Like they put me in tutoring because my math skills were only one year ahead. My family is all engineers, computer scientists etc. Everybody's a bachelor's or above except my one sister who's specifically disabled.
When I decided on nursing school I was like OK I'm just going to aim for something achievable for me. The content should be right at my level, at least I'll be able to excel at that like they're expecting. And the coursework itself was super easy. I had all the chem physics and bio I needed for the conceptual groundwork. I had all the Greek and Latin roots I needed for the terminology. Even the math was actually right on my level (basic algebra, ratio and proportion, PEMDAS equations), I just needed to up my accuracy when I had previously optimized for speed. And even now my computer skills alone are basically unmatched among clinical professionals. I had to call IT for something they needed to remote into the workstation for and they were shocked that I just gave them the IP address.
But my instructors and preceptors absolutely humbled me in people skills and emotional resiliency. I actually flunked out the first time for being too emotionally immature. They made me cry on the regular and I just couldn't get a grip on what they wanted from me interaction wise. It was actually my first shitty job at a psych hospital + going through therapy simultaneously that fixed me. It's wild to say but I feel like the literally criminally insane men I was working with taught me better people skills than my parents did. I learned so much about respect and what it really meant to uphold a promise through adversity and how to keep my stupid mouth shut.
So. I thought I was aiming low, and I still wound up being the dumbest person in the room. Did get the degree though; it's been 6 years now.
It's wild to say but I feel like the literally criminally insane men I was working with taught me better people skills than my parents did.
That actually sounds pretty reasonable to me (not to excuse your parents, if applicable). It’s not the same thing at all, but I learned much better people skills from living with a boyfriend who had abandoned his treatment for and didn’t tell me about his paranoid schizophrenia than from anyone else. He read so much into everything I said, that I learned to speak very deliberately.
When you are working with people with a very different perspective on the world that you can’t change, and neither party feels entitled to acceptance because of family, you need to learn how to treat others respectfully and with dignity to succeed.
Oh God.
But they were all dipshits.
You know, this actually explains a lot. Like how I never realized this before.
It took me many years to realize.
I learned to read and write very young, and so the literary part of school was always super easy. This caused me to neglect studying overall, and when I moved to high school in the city, I was just average lol
Big fish in a small pond.
Guessing I'm not the only one in here that had a similar pathway with video games. Maybe games in general, as chess was similar.
Everywhere is filled with absolute dipshits. Frankly the bar for "gifted" should not be looked at a praise-worthy state of those deemed such, but rather as a scathing rebuke of the general idiocy rampant across humanity.
The bar for "gifted" is so low, people keep tripping over it. thump
You were gifted with a monkeys paw smarter than most people but not smart enough to do anything great so you got stuck around the people you were smarter than to watch them struggle at the self checkout
You’re unique, just like everyone else.
We are all snowflakes.

It's sort of one of my favorite things about us.
Growing up in a town can be rough if you're considered smart, and I've seen plenty posing as a lot dumber than they really are just so they fit in. The people that will not dumb themselves down tend to stand out more because of this.