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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 3 points 21 minutes ago

You do really feel this when you're using old hardware.

I have an iPad that's maybe a decade old at this point. I'm using it for the exact same things I was a decade ago, except that I can barely use the web browser. I don't know if it's the browser or the pages or both, but most web sites are unbearably slow, and some simply don't work, javascript hangs and some elements simply never load. The device is too old to get OS updates, which means I can't update some of the apps. But, that's a good thing because those old apps are still very responsive. The apps I can update are getting slower and slower all the time.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 2 points 38 minutes ago

Thought leaders spent the last couple of decades propaganding that features-per-week is the only metric to optimize, and that if your software has any bit of efficiency or quality in it that's a clear indicator for a lost opportunity to sacrifice it on the alter of code churning.

The result is not "amazing". I'd be more amazed had it turned out differently.

[–] goodboyjojo@lemmy.world 1 points 37 minutes ago

Computer speed feels about the same as it was years ago.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

The whole industry needs rebuilt from the foundations. GRTT with a grading ring that tightly controls resources (including, but not limited to RAM) as the fundamental calculus, instead of whatever JS happens to stick to the Chome codebase and machine codes spewed by your favorite C compiler.

[–] Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 58 minutes ago

If one of us ever wins the lotto we better get on funding that

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Had to install (an old mind you, 2019) visual studio on windows...

...

...

First it's like 30GB, what the hell?? It's an advanced text editor with a compiler and some ..

Crashed a little less than what I remember 🥴😁

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 1 points 52 minutes ago

First it’s like 30GB, what the hell??

Just be grateful it's SSD and not RAM.

[–] erev@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Visual Studio is the IDE. VS Code is the text editor.

[–] shynoise@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

can we at least try to use critical reading on lemmy

OP was clearly using a rhetorical reduction to make a point that VS is bloated.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Visual code is another project, visual studio is indeed an IDE but it integrates it all. Vscode is also an integrated development environment. I don't really know what more to say.

[–] erev@lemmy.world 1 points 8 minutes ago

VS Code is considered a highly extensible text editor that can be used as an IDE, especially for web based tools, but it isnt an IDE. It's more comparable to Neovim or Emacs than to IntelliJ in terms of the role it's supposed to fill. Technically. VS Code definitely is used more as an IDE by most people, and those people are weak imo. I'm not one to shill for companies (i promise this isnt astroturf) but if you need to write code Jetbrains probably has the best IDE for that language. Not always true but moee often than not it is imo.

[–] bampop@lemmy.world 55 points 5 hours ago

My PC is 15 times faster than the one I had 10 years ago. It's the same old PC but I got rid of Windows.

[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 38 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (10 children)

Everything bad people said about web apps 20+ years ago has proved true.

It's like, great, now we have consistent cross-platform software. But it's all bloated, slow, and only "consistent" with itself (if even). The world raced to the bottom, and here we are. Everything is bound to lowest-common-denominator tech. Everything has all the disadvantages of client-server architecture even when it all runs (or should run) locally.

It is completely fucking insane how long I have to wait for lists to populate with data that could already be in memory.

But at least we're not stuck with Windows-only admin consoles anymore, so that's nice.

All the advances in hardware performance have been used to make it faster (more to the point, "cheaper") to develop software, not faster to run it.

[–] wabasso@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 hours ago

And that us poors still on limited bandwidth plans get charged for going over our monthly quotas because everything has to be streamed or loaded from the cloud instead of installed (or at least cached) locally.

[–] udc@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I'm dreading when poorly optimized vibe coding works it's way into mainstream software and create a glut of technical debt. Performance gonna plummet the next 5 years just wait.

[–] NewOldGuard@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago

Already happening with Windows. Also supposedly with Nvidia GPU drivers, with some AMD execs pushing for the same now

[–] drislands@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

If only bad people weren't the ones who said it, maybe we would have listened 😔

[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 4 hours ago

I almost started a little rant about Ignaz Semmelweis before I got the joke. :P

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[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 10 points 4 hours ago

"Let them eat ram"

[–] DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world 24 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I hate that our expectations have been lowered.

2016: "oh, that app crashed?? Pick a different one!"

2026: "oh, that app crashed again? They all crash, just start it again and cross your toes."

[–] wabasso@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I’m starting to develop a conspiracy theory that MS is trying to make the desktop experience so terrible that everyone switches to mobile devices, such that they can be more easily spied on.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 1 points 21 minutes ago

That would be incredibly ironic given that they completely fucking gave up on mobile devices when the iPhone came out.

[–] wulrus@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I bought a desktop PC for a little over 2k in late 2011, and still use it. I'm a back-end developer, and certainly I would like to be able to upgrade my 16 GB RAM to 32 GB in an affordable way.

Other than that, it's perfectly fine. IDE, a few docker containers, works.

And modern gaming is a scam anyway. Realistic graphics do not increase fun, they just eat electricity and our money. Retro gaming or not at all.

Imagine how things were if they were built to be maintained for 15+ years.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

2011 means it's probably DDR3, which is still fairly affordable

[–] kunaltyagi@programming.dev 45 points 8 hours ago (11 children)

The same? Try worse. Most devices have seen input latency going up. Most applications have a higher latency post input as well.

Switching from an old system with old UI to a new system sometimes feels like molasses.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 11 points 6 hours ago

I work in support for a SaaS product and every single click on the platform takes a noticeable amount of time. I don't understand why anyone is paying any amount of money for this product. I have the FOSS equivalent of our software in a test VM and its far more responsive.

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