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might be a form of Jevons Paradox (lemmy.blahaj.zone)

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Had to install (an old mind you, 2019) visual studio on windows...

...

First it's like 30GB, what the hell?? It's an advanced text editor with a compiler and some ..

Crashed a little less than what I remember 🥴😁

[–] erev@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Visual Studio is the IDE. VS Code is the text editor.

[–] shynoise@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

can we at least try to use critical reading on lemmy

OP was clearly using a rhetorical reduction to make a point that VS is bloated.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Visual code is another project, visual studio is indeed an IDE but it integrates it all. Vscode is also an integrated development environment. I don't really know what more to say.

[–] erev@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

VS Code is considered a highly extensible text editor that can be used as an IDE, especially for web based tools, but it isnt an IDE. It's more comparable to Neovim or Emacs than to IntelliJ in terms of the role it's supposed to fill. Technically. VS Code definitely is used more as an IDE by most people, and those people are weak imo. I'm not one to shill for companies (i promise this isnt astroturf) but if you need to write code Jetbrains probably has the best IDE for that language. Not always true but moee often than not it is imo.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Ooh, a flame war 🔥🔥🔥 ! It has been so long since I was involved in one, thank you 🙋🏻‍♀️! 😊

Who uses visual code to something else than writing and launching vode? I only uses it for C#/Godot on Linux but it has all the bells and whistles to make it an IDE IMO (BTW anyone who doesn't code in C/C++ is weak ofc ☺️! 🔥).

Let me just add that jetbrains (at least pycharm) have started their enshittification death cycle, and I'm looking for a lightweight python IDE that doesn't hallucinate (but lets you use venm and debug), if you have any ideas I'm listening!

Cheers

[–] erev@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

I wanna clarify that when i say VS Code I'm talking about Visual Studio Code. I was only commenting on the difference between Visual Studio and Visual Studio Code because you said you downloaded Visual Studio and was confused why a text editor was 30gb, and it's possible you downloaded the IDE rather than the text editor. I apologize if you thought i was talking about Visual Code; I wasn't.

And i agree that JetBrains has started to enshittify but I also think their enshittification has been pretty slow because they sell professional tools that still have to perform the basic functionality of an IDE. And for the modt part I've been able to disable all AI features save the ones I'm required to use at work (yay AI usage metrics ;-;)

[–] Nikelui@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

For data science, Spyder is good. Otherwise I also use pyzo as a lightweight IDE.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago

Will check out, thanks!

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

First it’s like 30GB, what the hell??

Just be grateful it's SSD and not RAM.