It's like, great, now we have consistent cross-platform software. But it's all bloated, slow, and only "consistent" with itself (if even). The world raced to the bottom, and here we are. Everything is bound to lowest-common-denominator tech. Everything has all the disadvantages of client-server architecture even when it all runs (or should run) locally.

It is completely fucking insane how long I have to wait for lists to populate with data that could already be in memory.

But at least we're not stuck with Windows-only admin consoles anymore, so that's nice.

All the advances in hardware performance have been used to make it faster (more to the point, "cheaper") to develop software, not faster to run it.

[–] udc@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm dreading when poorly optimized vibe coding works it's way into mainstream software and create a glut of technical debt. Performance gonna plummet the next 5 years just wait.

[–] NewOldGuard@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago

Already happening with Windows. Also supposedly with Nvidia GPU drivers, with some AMD execs pushing for the same now

[–] IMALlama@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Let me assure you this is already happening.

[–] wabasso@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 weeks ago

And that us poors still on limited bandwidth plans get charged for going over our monthly quotas because everything has to be streamed or loaded from the cloud instead of installed (or at least cached) locally.

[–] drislands@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If only bad people weren't the ones who said it, maybe we would have listened 😔

[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 3 weeks ago

I almost started a little rant about Ignaz Semmelweis before I got the joke. :P

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Webapps are in general badly written and inefficient.

[–] MoffKalast@lemmy.world -5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Bloated electron apps are what make Linux on desktop viable today but you guys aren't ready for that conversation.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, in that the existence of bloated electron apps tends to cause web apps to be properly maintained, as a side effect.

But thankfully, we don't actually have to use the Electron version, to benefit.

[–] G_M0N3Y_2503@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago

Unless it's Teams apparently, that's the last Electron app I want to install.

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 9 points 3 weeks ago

I can only think of a couple Electron apps I use, and none that are important or frequently used.

[–] drislands@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Uhhh like what?

[–] piranhaconda@mander.xyz 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Note, I don't know how comprehensive this wiki list is, just quick research

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_software_using_Electron

From those, I'm only currently using a handful.

balenaEtcher, Discord, Synergy, and Obsidian

[–] Calfpupa@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The viability of linux isn't dependent on them though

[–] piranhaconda@mander.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Agreed. I wasn't the one that claimed that

[–] MoffKalast@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's dependant on being able to run everything anyone could possibly need. That kind of approach is what's always made it niche.

Of course Adobe is still missing.

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Spotify, Steam

[–] slappyfuck@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What’s wrong with balena etcher?

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s hundreds of megabytes for something that unetbootin, image writer, and others do in a couple of MBs.

[–] slappyfuck@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

Oh dang, is that the overheard of the software framework it uses? I think that’s what this thread was about but I can’t remember.

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Steam UI uses chromium embedded framework which saves 50% of the ram and startup time.