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[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 48 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (4 children)

Everything bad people said about web apps 20+ years ago has proved true.

It's like, great, now we have consistent cross-platform software. But it's all bloated, slow, and only "consistent" with itself (if even). The world raced to the bottom, and here we are. Everything is bound to lowest-common-denominator tech. Everything has all the disadvantages of client-server architecture even when it all runs (or should run) locally.

It is completely fucking insane how long I have to wait for lists to populate with data that could already be in memory.

But at least we're not stuck with Windows-only admin consoles anymore, so that's nice.

All the advances in hardware performance have been used to make it faster (more to the point, "cheaper") to develop software, not faster to run it.

[–] wabasso@lemmy.ca 8 points 9 hours ago

And that us poors still on limited bandwidth plans get charged for going over our monthly quotas because everything has to be streamed or loaded from the cloud instead of installed (or at least cached) locally.

[–] udc@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I'm dreading when poorly optimized vibe coding works it's way into mainstream software and create a glut of technical debt. Performance gonna plummet the next 5 years just wait.

[–] IMALlama@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Let me assure you this is already happening.

[–] NewOldGuard@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 hours ago

Already happening with Windows. Also supposedly with Nvidia GPU drivers, with some AMD execs pushing for the same now

[–] drislands@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

If only bad people weren't the ones who said it, maybe we would have listened 😔

[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 11 hours ago

I almost started a little rant about Ignaz Semmelweis before I got the joke. :P

[–] MoffKalast@lemmy.world -3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (3 children)

Bloated electron apps are what make Linux on desktop viable today but you guys aren't ready for that conversation.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 7 points 10 hours ago

Yes, in that the existence of bloated electron apps tends to cause web apps to be properly maintained, as a side effect.

But thankfully, we don't actually have to use the Electron version, to benefit.

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 7 points 11 hours ago

I can only think of a couple Electron apps I use, and none that are important or frequently used.

[–] drislands@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] piranhaconda@mander.xyz 6 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Note, I don't know how comprehensive this wiki list is, just quick research

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_software_using_Electron

From those, I'm only currently using a handful.

balenaEtcher, Discord, Synergy, and Obsidian

[–] Calfpupa@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The viability of linux isn't dependent on them though

[–] piranhaconda@mander.xyz 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Agreed. I wasn't the one that claimed that