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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 hour ago

Bruh this is literally Stasi shit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zersetzung

OOP should join the FSB lmfao

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I'm a little confused how OOP is moving the welcome mat without triggering the camera. Though I'm sure this story is $100% real.

[–] stiffyGlitch@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Ecen@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Can someone explain why there are so many stories of bad HOAs in America? Don't everyone in the HOA get to vote on who will be on the board and what rules there should be? Why do many of them seem to have strange and petty rules? What makes them able to issue fines for so small infractions? Where does the fine money go? Who sets up the HOA in the first place and what is the motivation to do so?

We got plenty of similar associations where I live (both for apartments and houses, though not so often for fully detached homes) and they usually work great. Basically you pay a monthly fee to your HOA that the board use to keep the plumbing and outside areas maintained, pay for tv/internet for everyone at a much reduced cost or maintain other common areas like laundry rooms, guest apartment, parking garage, workshop etc. There are of course some restrictions too you need to follow, but those are usually minor and common sense anyways (like you shouldn't play very loud music too late in an apartment in the middle of the week) and that you don't get to do whatever you want to the outside of your place.

(Another common rule is that you need HOA approval to sublet your apartment. This can be occasionally annoying to deal with, but is good because it prevents people from buying up apartments just to rent them out. And most of the time the HOA will approve you if you're just moving away for a year or similar.)

[–] cpaq47@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

That was the original intent, yes. Then they were tainted by greed and now most of them are in place before anyone lives in the neighborhood, so owners have no choice if they want to live there. Many are owned and operated by private companies that profit off petty fines like this. I once got a letter threatening a fine because I parked my car in my driveway and it had expired tabs. This was during early covid when the DMV was slower than usual. I almost lost my shit.

Check out this episode of Last week tonight if you wanna get more upset.

Last Week Tonight HOAs

[–] mirshafie@europe.pub 2 points 3 hours ago

Hittade svensken

[–] ugandan_airways@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Anybody have any neighbor revenge tips? As in my neighbor is a fucking psycho who tried to break into my house, but is also rich, so he paid a lawyer and got a hand slap?

Obligatory, ACAB and fuck America. Can’t wait to take a position overseas again.

[–] Bongles@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 hours ago

Good ol frozen piss disc. /s

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 hours ago

I find a well aimed missile tends to do the trick

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Depends how much revenge you need. There is a sliding scale between pooping on his doormat to planting creeping bamboo to planting an IED.

[–] ugandan_airways@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 hours ago

Somewhere between the bamboo and IED

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 7 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Check every morning if the cans moved.

Notice they move Wednesday night.

Set alarm for middle of the night (3AM) and check if they moved.

Didn't move? Next week set alarm for 4.30AM.

Moved? 3.45AM.

Moved....

Shoot the guy trespassing on your property in dark clothes in the middle of the night.

[–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 hours ago

Slightly annoyed by neighbor -> commits premeditated murder.

Yup, perfect solution.

[–] BogeyTheSwear@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Nowhere does it say they are Americans 🤷‍♂️ also you sound like a psychopath

[–] LwL@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

HOA plus calling a priest to have the house blessed certainly point in that direction though. But I don't think that would be legal everywhere even there. Isn't much use to you though if the neighbour is the kind of psycho to shoot someone over this.

[–] seejur@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Isn't HOA pretty unique to America (and maybe Canada)?

[–] mirshafie@europe.pub 1 points 3 hours ago

I imagine all neighborhoods have some local association that fills this function. It's just that the USA cosplays as libertarians while being authotitarians.

I hate to drag in Iran into this, but that's a country where property is respected. You owned a piece of land in the 60s that you never developed, then the revolution came and you fled to LA? Well your plot of land is still sitting there, untouched, in the middle of Tehran, now worth tens of millions of dollars.

As a homeowner in Iran, you own a cone with its tip in the Earth's core and its base emanating to the edge of the universe. The same applies if ypu own an apartment. You have a veto, changes can only happen by consensus.

[–] BogeyTheSwear@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I live in an andelsboligforening, thats kind of the same i think.

Imagine if an association owned an apartment complex, and the association was owned by the members.

So i dont technically own my apartment, i own a specific part of the association, that is connected with this specific apartment.

We have the same for city gardens called Kolonihave, its actually very common in Northern Europe.

[–] OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 42 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

These are creative writing exercises on reddit. It's gotten a million times worse since LLMs.

[–] VinegarChunks@lemmus.org 22 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

A LLM that does not understand that you can’t avoid being seen by a ring camera by ‘approaching from a different side. ‘

[–] HereIAm@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

You're making the assumption the cameras can see the bins. Might just look at a driveway.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 13 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

I mean its perfectly conceivable for any camera to have a blind spot. The lens can only see so much. Heck given its a Ring camera its almost certainly on a wireless connection so its trivial to briefly disrupt the connection if you're okay with violating FCC regulations

[–] VinegarChunks@lemmus.org 7 points 6 hours ago

A camera was put up explicitly for the purpose of seeing who is moving the bins, and the guy can’t see who is moving the bins, and the guy never thinks to reposition his camera?

No, that’s AI slop.

[–] cuerdo@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

the cans would not be in a blind spot

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

If a camera is pointed directly at the trash cans, there would be no blind spot from which they could move them.

[–] statelesz@slrpnk.net 28 points 18 hours ago (11 children)

HOA are such a crazy concept. There is no such thing in Europe.

[–] Bababasti@feddit.org 3 points 7 hours ago

In the whole of Europe? That thing that‘s made up by a big bunch of countries, all with very different laws and regulations? Bold claim.

[–] HereIAm@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

My parents kinda has one where they live in Sweden. Except everyone is welcome to the meetings. And it's mostly about planning, upkeep, and budgeting for snow ploughing, play parks and things like that, instead of relying on the local council to do it. And it's only for the one street they live on. Definitely no where near what an american HOA is like 😅

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

We Germans sadly have owner's associations in appartment buildings that can pull similar shit with the house rules, and also crazy restrictive building codes in some places, dictating how your driveway is allowed to look etc.

[–] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 18 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Am in US. I will NEVER own a house with an HOA. NEVER

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 15 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 7 points 14 hours ago

Why not both? 🤣

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 16 points 18 hours ago

Of course there are home owners associations in Europe. They're just not crazy.

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[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 76 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (9 children)

Not HOA but similar. I was living in a different city during covid. The city closed the outdoor parks in the poor and working class neighborhoods, the rich folk parks remained open.

They started to wrap the swings at the park around the top bar. I'd unwrap them each day and that went on for about two weeks. Then they went to zip tying the swings together so they couldn't be used. So I would cut the zip ties each day. This went on for another few weeks. Then they brought a sign post and a sign saying the park was closed and using the swings was prohibited. I dug the sign post out and threw it in the woods. Then they chained the swings together with a pad lock so I went to harbor freight and bought very heavy duty bolt cutters and lopped the chain off. That daily chain lopping lasted a week or two then they just took the swings away. I debated about buying swings and attaching them but figured the gambit went on as long as it should have and called it. I had fun.

Meanwhile the whole time the kids in the rich neighborhoods could swing to their daily content.

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[–] socsa@piefed.social 44 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Imagine being so fucking basic you care about trash cans being visible from the street.

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 39 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Its not about the trash cans, its about making sure your neighbours know YOU are calling the shots. If it wasnt the trashcan it would have been the grass a half-inch too high, or the paint on the door chipped slightly, or gravel leaving the premises, or dirty windows.

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[–] mrnobody@reddthat.com 120 points 23 hours ago (24 children)

I don't believe it... Moving a welcome mat when the guy has a camera doorbell? C'mon...

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 19 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

This should be green text.

[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 35 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (3 children)
[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

Monkeys paw finger curls

[–] Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 12 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 18 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago

🤌 the fact that you went through the effort to make that text green, too

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