There's currently an e-coli outbreak in Idaho due to raw milk. 9 sick, 2 of them children.
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What it they heat the milk to a high but not boiling temperature to kill the ecoli bacteria?
Well, that pisses off God and makes libruls happy. Can't do it.
If that’s what God wanted, he would have made cows much hotter!
Hotter? Aren't they sexy enough for you ?
Witchcraft! We found the witch!
Sounds like the problem is solving itself.
At least it's not contagious, I guess... It's the measles and polio coming back that's gonna really fuck us.
Unfortunately stupidity is contagious. For example people convincing each other that drinking raw milk is a good idea.
So, homogenization? I could take it or leave it. But pasteurization? Literally no reason to reject it, outside of extremely niche recipes that you aren’t making. Going at raw cow titty juice seems absurdly stupid.
Lots of great cheeses made with raw milk, though I assume making cheese from it is somehow safer than consuming the raw milk itself.
Somewhat safer. Step one of making cheese is usually heating up the milk, so that can kill things on its own, then you are going to mix in an acid to get it to curdle probably lemon juice or something. Salt is often added as well. Once you've separated the curds and the whey, you end up having to age the cheese, and there are requirements for aging to ensure the possible bad bacteria sits with the salt for a while, say a couple months. It limits or gets rid of most of the possibility of things like salmonella growing in it. Soft cheeses I hear are more at risk than hard cheeses when it comes to raw milk. (More air I assume, less compact to the salt)
Depends. Cheeses that get soft by fermentation with fungi are safe.
Lots of great cheeses
That's what he said: "extremely niche recipes you aren't making."
You ain't some artisanal dairy in the French Alps that's been making cheese the same way for 200 years, and neither are any of the lunatics complaining about US pasteurization laws.
there is a place for natural fermentation with unpasteurized stuff. I am NOT doing it with milk. I'll get my bacteria from sauerkraut or kimchi
It's one thing to drink raw milk if it's on your farm and you are sure the animal is clean. Or other rural in person settings, still some risk there I'm sure idk how ecoli even works exactly.
But when you are buying raw milk from like facebook marketplace, and you have groups capitalizing on the raw milk movement to overcharge people for it, you are getting that raw milk from places you cannot trust to be clean.
Now, a New Mexico newborn has died, and while medical experts have not yet determined an exact cause, they have determined that “the most likely source of infection was unpasteurized milk.” Not because the baby drank raw milk, but because their mother did, while she was pregnant.
Yooooo new legal abortion pill just dropped
Raw milk seems like a fine option for a farmer. Or really anyone that can see the cow from where they're standing. Any farther away than that and you must be nuts
Let the idiots drink that stuff. The less idiots, the better.
“Producing raw milk takes careful planning from a facility and infrastructure standpoint,” the farm said in a statement Jan. 29. “Unfortunately, we learned this after the fact.”
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I thought this was just your humorously sarcastic take on the mindset of the people in the article. Then I read the article, and discovered it's a verbatim quote directly from the article. There's not enough room on my face for all of the palms this deserves.
Did they see how fucking dirty are the cows in a farm? They literally let them rest in the shit. And then they want to get all that shit raw and unfiltered in their mouths??
See what happens when you’re naive and uneducated? Whoever thought it would be a good idea to drink unpasteurized milk? Yuck.
My sister. The same person who insists "I won't allow chemicals in my home". I asked her if Nitrogen was allowed on her lawn (ya know, from rain) and she exploded.
Chemicals in food = ✋ 🤚
Pathogens in food = 👉 👉
I love the "no chemical" bullshit. Like, my siblings in baphomet, you ARE chemicals!
"You know what I mean!"
An actual response I got years ago when I made a similar point.
"No, actually, I don't know what you mean, and I'm fairly certain that you don't either."
Oh one of those. Ask her what she thinks about dihydrogen monoxide.
I'm of the opinion that raw milk is a part of rural American culture. I don't want to make it so these people can't express their culture. That being said, feeding raw milk to a baby? Are you fucking kidding me? Do people not know the risk? Are they not making sure the farmer they're getting their milk from is following proper sanitary procedures during the milking process? It can't be that they don't know the risks, they must just have a room temp IQ. Just sad kids have to pay the price
They didn't feed it to the baby. The baby got it from the mom who drank the raw milk. I mean also yeah these people are dumb AF, you basically have to be a moron to think drinking raw milk is a good idea.
People know the risk. They don't believe the risk.
Sometimes people's culture is shit and it needs to change.
I swear I will never understand this level of stupid. Like the idea of raw milk isn't gross enough you're going to feed that to your NEWBORN?!? Ugh.
wait till we start putting chalk back in the milk for color