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I've seen several references to some sort of rift between the users of these instances today. What's happening?

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[–] enterpries@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

ML is run by heavily-indoctrinated communists. They're the type that straight up worship communist leaders.

lemmy.world is kind of run by pussies. They blocked the piracy sublemmy for no real reason other than that.

It doesn't surprise me they are butting heads. Hopefully the instances that allow interaction with both instances triumph over those that try to restrict access.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 hours ago

They're the type that straight up worship communist leaders.

I wouldn't phrase it at that. They're fans of Russia, China, Iran, and pretty much any other country that's antagonistic to the US. This regardless of whether said state is communist, especially Russia, which has become fascist under Putin's rule.

In short, the .ml owners are tankies

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 35 points 9 hours ago (13 children)

Visit ML before any major Western election and browse by Local (its default) and you will easily see: ML calls for the literal and actual fall of all Western civilization including the deaths of most to nearly all peoples therein.

Whereas LW does not want that, go figure. 🤷‍♀️

Something something bOtH sIdEs SaMe.

[–] AskewLord@piefed.social 23 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

.ml users are also just immature weirdos. most of my harassing comments calling me insults come from .ml users.

they don't discuss and they don't read. they just shout and quote russian/chinese state propaganda about how people living in those countries are so wealthy and liberated and so much better than americans or europeans. and if you do cite sources, they tell you that those are american propaganda and all lies and ONLY THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT IS TELLING THE TRUTH.

oh, and the .ml opening talk about the power of violence and their violent fantasies of killing everyone who has a modicum of economic security and all claim to be the poorest of the poor, which I highly doubt.

I was a communist when I was 15, but even back then I was into the utopia part, not the mass murder fantasy part.

[–] DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com 2 points 28 minutes ago

Now that you're a grown up who can speak for yourself, what is the Hannibal Directive?

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Actual communists here are on Threadiverse seem quite emotionally capable and are among the more pleasant to chat with. Examples there include slrpnk.net. I used to also say db0 though there always seems pushback nowadays whenever I include it, but I can't get anyone to give me a solid answer as to why besides unsubstantiated accusations that even on their face looks like pure BS to me. So I guess I'll keep saying it, just noting that it is a controversial point.:-)

Hexbears on the other hand are trolls, pure and simple, with zero regard for anything other than "the dunk" process of pwning someone - or rather, appearing to, from their own extremely childish POV.

Lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml then are the leftist MAGAs, believing in alternative facts rather than living in reality. e.g. most claim that they would move to the likes of North Korea in a heartbeat, except, you know... I guess they took an arrow to the knee or some such. 🤪

I am so glad that I can block people from an entire instance. If I could, I would make an exception to the devs Nutomic and Dessalines out of respect for having offered the Lemmy sourcecode as FOSS, but other than that, I have not missed a single interaction with anyone on Lemmy.ml since I have done so, every time I've checked to see what I might be missing. They are the most batshit insane comments across the entirety of the Threadiverse, after Hexbear obviously.

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[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

"the only communists who are actual communists are the ones who cater to my sensibilities as a liberal"

The only person spewing alternative facts is you, you can't seem to regurgitate a post without making up bullshit.

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[–] bluGill@fedia.io 25 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

ML is run by people who are not only communist, but also communists can do no wrong, capitalists can do no right. Just being communist most of us could live with, but the second is a problem. When someone cannot agree things like genocides that various communist governments are a bad it is really hard to have productive conversations.

[–] AskewLord@piefed.social 16 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

yes. the openly call for murder, theft, and various form of violence against their 'enemies'.

and if you suggest maybe that's not such a great idea, they basically tell you that you should die too.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

But on the other hand, perhaps I should smile more, even as I am being murdered? (Dials gaslighting up to 11) Yes, it is surely I who am in the wrong here, rather than them.

(/s in case it is not abundantly clear)

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago

Dials gaslighting up to 11

literally every post you make does this

[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 18 points 8 hours ago

~~communists~~ Tankies.

[–] lemmylump@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

I'm very glad I do not know what ML is, it sounds annoying.

[–] anothermember@feddit.uk 40 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

I just want to add to the discussion that I think it's perfectly healthy if two instances don't like each other and/or have different outlooks - it's the beauty of the fediverse and having decentralisation that they don't have to agree on everything.

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[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 17 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

Liberals and communists hate each other, that's pretty much it

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

ML users aren't really communists though - they are leftist MAGAs who believe in alternative facts, only paying lip service to communist principles but not in a genuine manner. i.e. tankies.

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[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

OpenStars spewing bullshit once more, shocker

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

It's the authoritarian part LW disagrees with. I think the .world admins would have long defederated ML, but since the lemmy coders are situated on .ML, thats not such an attractive option. Desalines and Nutomic are hardcore tankies and bigots, which crush any dissenting voice on .ml. Even worse, if you want to support lemmy development, the finances of .ml and development budget are intertwined, so every donation for lemmy also supports tankies. It's the reason i switched to piefed,

If you want examples of how those two run their digital kingdom, take a look at !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works - most posts are about .ml.

The "tankies" have the same platform as pretty much every real life communist organisation, lemmy.worlders have the same platform as your generic European social democratic party.

I'd have more respect for people just admitting that they're anti-communist rather than trying to redefine and obfuscate the meaning of the word.

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[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 36 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The stereotype is that Lemmy.ml wants to play with Stalin's balls. Lemmy.world wants to play with, I don't know, Obama's balls? With Bernie, Bill Clinton, and Reagan watching from the corner?

Something like that, anyway.

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 26 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

World is after ML for being Stalinists and ML is after World for not being Stalinists hah

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 2 points 3 hours ago

Moral purity beatings will continue until morale improves.

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