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It makes sense - for one thing, Rust is a very difficult language to work with, whereas one reason that PieFed is able to be developed so quickly is its choice to be coded in Python (the non-SQL parts anyway) that many developers are already very familiar with.

And look at the huge backlash against PieFed for even so much as existing alongside Lemmy, even as a fun project that is helpful to the development of the worldwide Threadiverse overall. A fork of Lemmy would be treated much more this way, with scorn and disdain.

Check out !nonpolitical_comics@piefed.social - it's fairly awesome 😎👍

Misinformation item #1'

Piefed has hardcoded censorship?

No, it does not. It has options to censor things, if the instance admin so chooses. A simple click of a box in a UI can control this? (As just one possibility.)

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They seem to be deliberately funnelling users to instances that block three of the most active Lemmy instances because they don’t like the pinkos there

Lemmy.ml is not blocked by default, and as people are saying there, this nonexistent block is also not hard-coded (chiefly since it does not exist, but also the blocks for hexbear and Lemmygrad are likewise not hard-coded, but again are options to select or not).

Btw, here is a post from 2 days ago made by a Lemmy.ml user to a lemmy.ml community, appearing on PieFed.social, the flagship PieFed instance. Can you please explain to me then how lemmy.ml is blocked by default, and that is hard-coded right into the software?

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this rational system gets them labelled with “Defederation: Negligent” in the piefed onboarding flow.

No, it doesn't, nor was it ever thought to? For one, the word "negligent" does not appear anywhere in https://piefed.social/auth/instance_chooser (please do not take my word about any of this that I say here, look it up for yourself and see, but otherwise you are simply spreading someone else's disinformation) - what it says is "Newbie-friendly" vs. "Choose your own adventure", and PieFed.zip is clearly labeled as "Newbie friendly: Yes", and shows up when the selector has chosen Newbie-friendly rather than Choose your own adventure.

The word "negligent" is highly charged (enshittified?), but the wording "Choose your own adventure" is not, which anyway, again, does not even apply here to begin with?

There was a question about whether PieFed.zip was fully "Newbie-friendly", and if you look up hexbear's history you will see why. Especially when they were caught lying to other instance admins. They brought this censorship upon themselves, by refusing to moderate themselves and then harboring people engaging in trolling behaviors outside of their instance, effectively protecting those bullies. Hexbears are leftist MAGAs, and many people on Reddit legitimately cite having left the Threadiverse as a result of being exposed to such, making any instance that federates with hexbear not 100% fully "Newbie-friendly", and rather more "Choose your own adventure".

On the internet, people sometimes lie. You do not have to choose to repeat their lies elsewhere as if they were 100% true (without even so much as a "I heard that people are saying..."). Honestly I expect better from someone on mander.xyz.

Some fair points here but don't allow the person you are responding to here warp the conversation with highly charged wording choices, possibly influenced by the very drama posts that OP was referring to (except in reverse).

I do not see the word "negligent" anywhere at https://piefed.social/auth/instance_chooser. I see only "Newbie-friendly" and "Choose your own adventure". Is there something wrong or negative (hehe, "negligent") about "Choose your own adventure"? Conversely, "Newbie-friendly" speaks to a playground like experience where even a former Redditor might be able to understand something - without having to bother to read anything at all, certainly nothing as complicated as my very own comment here🤪.

PieFed.zip is not "negligent", nor have I seen any hint or question that it ever might have been? There was concern that it might rather have been "Choose your own adventure" (and if so, then what would be wrong with that?) rather than "Newbie-friendly", but even that was cleared up in favor of the latter.

The person you are responding to is being negligent themselves (in their wording choice) if they are accusing piefed.zip of being negligent.

PieFed.zip is a wonderful instance and to anyone else reading, it is highly recommended by many people to check it out and then recommend it to others as a great default Threadiverse instance (as lemmy.zip likewise used to be, before PieFed's additional features eclipsed Lemmy's).

Lemmy != Tankies, Software != People, and Instance != Platform. e.g. you cannot simply delete someone from "~~Lemmy~~ PieFed", it would have to be from a specific instance, perhaps PieFed.social?

Likewise railing against tankies is not the same as hatred vs. a FOSS offering - like, anyone at all could make a fork of the PieFed project and thereby become entirely independent of its original main creator?

I dunno what to tell you other than FOSS is FOSS. Hate against free software all you like, but at the end of the day it's still entirely and completely free.🤷

does it happen both ways though?

Like one example is https://jeena.net/lemmy-switch-to-piefed - that's the irl experiences of an actual dev trying out both. That's not "Lemmy hate" to simply report on what this new instance admin actually encountered?

Or there's the account of slrpnk announcing its upcoming switch from Lemmy to PieFed - this is even an established, experienced admin team giving up on bugs in Lemmy and moving to PieFed that is easier to maintain. About those long-standing bugs, the admin says "I have reported the issue multiple times and I am not the only one with the problem since many years..."

How is this hatred of Lemmy's entire existence, as in not merely preferring one software over th other for one's own sake, vs. expressions wishing that the other software did not even so much as exist, as we see in several of those posts (and comments therein) that Blaze has shared in his post?

Yes there disagreements about the tankie devs and how they misuse funds, taking away from further software development in order to run their heavily politically charged and controversial instance (where based on the amount of moderation work going on, seems to consume a great deal of time and effort), without offering much in the way of choices to fund exclusively the software itself alone. But those are "concerns", not actively wishing that the other software platform did not exist?

Neither software is perfect, but the only active hatred I've seen is towards the PieFed side.

But someone downvoted you so obviously not all. 😝🙄🤪

How the hell are people downvoting this sentiment?!🤪

I don't use 3rd party apps, but if I did, I would use Voyager. It's that good.

Oh no, have I started another flame war on the Threadiverse by... "expressing an opinion about something"😝.

Although I wish it was a bit more intuitive and the UI elements worked for it - like the sort functions only work for posts but not comments so sometimes it is difficult to use. For posts though, it's one of the better searchers I've yet seen, especially compared to Reddit 😝.

Fair, though I still don't get: why would there be special characters in them?

e.g. the URL I see this OP on is https://piefed.social/c/fedimemes/p/1727244/piefed-is-cool-lemmy-is-too-what-s-not-cool-infighting-it-drives-away-new-users-unfortu, and the actual OP source is https://thelemmy.club/post/43491796. There a a bunch of numbers there, but not "special characters", so I am not sure where you are getting this from.

Rimu's link asking if people have questions about the code: https://piefed.social/c/piefed_meta/p/1660885/we-re-here-to-answer-any-questions-you-have-about-piefed-s-code.

Special features of PieFed: https://join.piefed.social/features/.

The instance picker: https://piefed.social/auth/instance_chooser.

I don't see special characters in any of these?

If you are using an app, you might look into how safe it is keep using that app? Or perhaps you ran into a special niche case for a particular URL, but I don't really recall seeing special characters in any URLs related to PieFed so I don't think that's a (major) thing?