Chapotraphouse

I assume if you're an ideological monarchist you believe in the divine right of kings or something similar, an ideological justification for a specific group of superior people to have the right to be sovereign. Because you don't really want just anybody to do the job, or you'd be something besides a monarchist.

Wait you're allowed to be a monarchist and advocate for yourself being king?

I'm a monarchist now. King me.

They're cucks

You can’t lick your own boots.

They inflicted serf brain upon themselves for literally no reason. It's a fetish maybe.

My impression was always an aversion to thinking / decision making. They just want somebody to tell them what to do and be rewarded and work backwards from there.

If you're psychopathic and crave the power to control and fuck up poor peoples' lives, this society is basically built for you already, go and exploit the fuck out of poor people right now. Honestly I have like five big money-making schemes I could do right now if I was willing to steamroll peoples' real lives and happiness.

You only advocate for Monarchism if you have some superhero fantasy of someone else saving you without you having to put in any work or change anything.

The monarchists who do think they should be on top are mostly too busy doing depraved old money aristocrat stuff to get messy on social media, because even though they're no longer personally the dictator of a country they literally own as their personal property their families are still rich aristocratic scum in the upper echelons of the empire. I mean some of those still get messy on social media too, because they're bored reactionary filth despite being rich enough to have endless entertainment treats poured down their gullets forever, but a lot of them are just less visible rich shitbags.

Which just leaves the real weirdo reactionaries who've bought into the propaganda that the special allegedly-pretty rich people are magic and should own everything, and if you think the special magic blood people will make the crops grow and the holy line ever rise then of course you want the ones with the real special magic blood to be doing their magic thing while you worship them and get special good boy headpats for it.

They're all little grubby shitweasels

Probably get off thinking they could end up landed gentry or something

Monarchies run on the magic of legitimacy moreso than one would assume. We live in post-liberal states where legitimacy arises, in one way or another, via popular will. Or at least consent. That said consent might arise due to consent manufacturing, a popularity contest, foreign threats or whatever else is immaterial. Monarchies arose from different customs, many of which don't really matter to commonfolk any more. So that they continue to exist at all is by converting the magic of ancient legitimism into the modern magic of celebrity worship. But that on its own cannot sustain a political regime. Celebrity worship turns sour in like a year, often.

So monarchists yearn for a parallel reality where said magic is unbroken. They don't live in a world where its a given that someone's family just inherits the divine mandate to rule over a territory. So they have to reconstruct a facsimile of whatever is going in Britain right now. What if the Russian/French/Portuguese/Chinese/Brazilian/German/Whatever monarchy was still alive to this day? They cannot fundamentally ask what changes would have been necessary for such a status to be reached and how, just like Britain, said regimes would have changed over the past 150 years at least. But they feel no need to because they are just esoteric reactionaries who like the bells and whistles of having a Court of unelected Your Graces instead of Oligarchs.

Meanwhile the actual oligarchs with any power to become monarchs are too busy owning the world as it is.

A lot of the time monarchists do advocate that. There's often multiple pretenders to each throne.

They long to suckle on the toes of an inbred pedophile.

I've been advocating for Fae Monarchy, I will declare myself the Elf King of Atlanta

And it’s always funny how they are magically immune to “muh human nature” arguments.

“Commie impossible because humans naturally bad.”

“We need to put all our faith in one unaccountable nepo baby who never suffered a day in his life! Trust your betters! This will never go wrong!”

The best way to cure a monarchist is to start arguing for technocracy and watch them mutter about “but freedom and democracy^TM^!”

Western Divine right of kings bullshit. Kings are fit to rule because they were chosen by god, so people separate from god cannot hope to ascend to the position.

This is a good question, were does legitimacy comes from in a monarchical society.

This reminds me of the time (possibly Ralph)Nader became shah of Iran and invaded india. The Mughal king was bragging about how he was the son of someone who was king and so on for several generations, and Nader shah responded by saying something along the lines of I am the son of the sword, and so on for more generations than you.

So yhea, ultimately legitimacy should come from the ability to raise an army and hold territory. But not entirely. there is always some sort of ritual involved, in order to provide some stability or institutional continuity.

But nader's regime didn't last long. It's institutions hadn't become strong enough to survive. They lacked a certain legitimacy in the minds of the subjects. And ironically so did the progenitor of the Mughal. It was amir Timur, acting as a regent of a descendant of gengis Khan. it was only after his death, and subsequent civil wars that Timur's descendents became kings in their own right even if their military power was much lesser than Timur's.

So there has to be some sort of continuity of ritual that forms the myth of the legitimacy of a given regime in the minds of it's people. And it's this the strength of this that prevents warlords from claiming kingship.

I think Japan is a good example, being isolated from the rest of the world, the warlords became shoguns, while the emperor remained a symbolic figure. Eventually the shogun also became a symbolic figure to the point were "Toy"O'Tommy Hideoshi wasn't even shogun but Taiko. But then his descendants were involved in the struggle to become shoguns, perhaps because of the interruption of ritual.