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I legitimately cannot comprehend polls where people who voted for Trump in 2024 changed their minds.
Trump- "Hey I'm going to do all this terrible shit"
Voters- "I'm going to vote for Trump presumably because I like his platform"
Trump- *does exactly what he said he was going to do*
Voters- >:(
I recently overheard a conversation between two people complaining about how, after the election, their friends unfollowed anyone who followed Trump.
Their argument was "I only voted for one issue. It's not like I have time to know everything."
It was an aggravating interaction, but also a strong reminder of just how ignorant the average voter is.
I only voted for one issue.
Hm, I wonder what that was.
Regardless, it's not like someone is going to spend four years on one issue.
IKR? These people wanted to pretend they were picked on, the poor dears, for espousing small government, personal responsibility, waging war on "socialized medicine", trading wicked memes about "Going Galt" or how the nine most terrifying words in the English language are "I'm from the government and I'm here to help".
No, it's always about them wanting to force people to host the worst versions of what a human being might say on their private platforms - spreading xenophobia, anti-gay, anti-trans, misogynist hate speech, or spreading outright lies about, oh, I don't know, a pandemic.
Gosh, I wonder why what offends conservatives the most is when people want to disassociate from them for this last stuff? I mean, if it's not a central plank of their movement and their platform?
They wrap it all up as freedom of speech, forgeting how fucking stupid they sound while desperately wishing the concept of hate-speech would go away except when they try to use it by saying that “cis” is a slur because these people have two malfunctioning braincells at best.
I think a lot of them heard what they wanted to hear. Certainly few wanted to read anything about Project 2025, even though it was a click away. Or voted with their "tribe" and know next to nothing about that tribe's decades long platform, Taco's specific agenda, Project 2025's agenda, or the conservative "movement" that underlies all of it.
Or they were simply racist AF and thought all the undesirables were going to be whisked away as if by magic and without any kind of visible consequences like women shot and children gassed. Or they thought he "didn't really mean it" but he's a miracle-worker on the economy...
But that’s because Trump speaks in open ended words like - freedom, patriot, illegal. People create their own narrative for what those words mean, and apply it to Trump and then are surprised that their definition doesn’t match trumps… I mean they can’t know everything right? /s
Oh don't worry, most of them who voted for him a third time are still cheering on the leopards with glee as all the smart-ass minorities and democrat-run areas get what's coming to 'em!
I went and looked at the profile of a real life trumper who is no longer a friend, on a social media site that I also mostly avoid, and they are openly supporting ICE.
Their justification is literally "imagine if you or your loved one was killed by an illegal" after listing a random list of names of people who were supposedly killed by "ILLEGALS." But it's a 3-paragraph post written by somebody who seems to think they are very clever for coming up with a weak metaphor for "imagine if somebody got some shit instead of you" so it's probably just a copypasta from some grifter they follow.
There was also a manual out. You didn’t even need to listen to him, you just had to read…
Apparently a lot of people in the US don't think mocking a disabled person to be "too far". Or raping children.
Fucking morons.
The US has a cancerous culture of selfish, self-centered narcissism and blind, feudal loyalty to money and those with money. No amount of monstrousness tugs the heartstrings until it impacts them personally. Slowly, those same selfish, evil, self-centered scum are realizing that the suffering they wanted to inflict on others impacts them. They will gain no self-awareness from this and learn nothing, continuing to metastasize even even after Trumpsolini is finally dead and rotting in the ground.
Hyperbole aside…the fascists have already taken strong steps to suppress, disqualify and gerrymander away Democratic votes to extend the large advantages they already had.
Before Trump Dems needed to be +3 to win, when he was elected they needed +5, and were looking at as much as a 10% margin required going forward.
42%, if that’s even a real numberr, coupd more than enough to secure a victory. This isn’t even accounting for the fact that Trump and his cult will just change the numbers if they lose.
I JUST saw another article that said his approval ratings were fairly steady and line up with about what they were the first time around.
Statistics and numbers can be made to say damn near anythin.
Hes just plain stupidly evil. Even without comparing him to sunnier folks and times, he represents thr dregs of humanity
Meanwhile, project 2025 is ongoing. They'll discard him once they're done having him absorb all the outrage and providing plenty of distraction.
How any U.S. military officer (not the Nazi ice assfucks) could look and think taking a military order for him is in the best interest of their country is a good idea is beyond me.
The guy says whatever comes out of his mind and changes it minutely after who ever he’s talked to.
I guess distraction from his life as a snuff film producer is high on the list right now.
The US military is made up of people who saw Abu Ghraib and said "Sign me up."
Dear anyone who voted for Trump: we fucking told you so.
His first term was a failure, I don't even know how to describe his second so far.
The definition of success depends on what the goal was. If the goal was to establish a fascist dictatorship, wreck the economy, and make people afraid, he is a success
It’s a success. If you go by all the stuff he said he’d do during his campaign and the stuff he’s gotten done so far, well, then he’s actually pretty successful. And look how far he’s gotten in just one year. Fucker is basically immune to the law.
You would have to have done some serious pretzel logic to believe Trump is delivering what he said.
End Ukraine War day one? Absolutely not.
End war in Gaza? Isreal is still regularly blowing up people in their one-sided cease fire.
Close the border? This racist dog whistle worked I suppose. Less illegal border crossings. I am personally surprised anyone would want to come to the US right now so it is a mixed bag.
Make the largest deportation event ever? Honestly Biden and Obama are going to be hard to beat especially now that no one wants to come here.
End birthright citizenship? This is straight out of white supremacist's playbooks. He has not accomplished this yet thank goodness.
Impose tariffs to improve economy? He has certainly imposed and withdrawn and then reimposed and then re-withdrawn a lot of tariffs. This has made him and his cronies very rich but it has generally hurt everyone else. I think in the next year we will begin to see how devastating they have been to the economy.
End inflation and lower prices? Absolutely stupid promise that no administration could hope to make happen. It is simply out of their power so it was stupid to even say this and it has not been fulfilled.
Make government more efficient? This has been one of the worst failures of any administration in history. This administration fundamentally misunderstanding of the agencies they slashed shows a profound lack of judgement. They are beyond inept and probably criminally negligent.
Ban transgender people in Sports? Considering it was never actually a problem it is hard to say you can be successful in solving an imaginary thought exercise. Having said that the conservative have spent a huge amount of time passing laws around this subject instead of governing real and important issues.
Eliminate the Education Department? This is one of those promises that should have never been made. The federal government is required by law to provide services for children with disabilities amongst many other critical programs. While this administration has been successful in greatly disrupting it, without having any alternative plan, they have not and cannot be successful because of numerous laws. This is once again tantamount to criminal negligence.
Cover IVF? Weird promise, has not been delivered but could in the future.
Pardon Jan 6 rioters? Stunning success except for the fact many have been locked up for additional crimes. That one pardon has now literally lead to thousands of crimes that this administration is now culpable for. Bizarre decision to subvert US law.
End DEI? While the administration can't stop the spirit of DEI since it is American in value, they have certainly made any mention punishable by firing thus violating everyone's right to free speech. Truly a bizarre move because if the government can just randomly decide DEI bad why not anything else without justification. Promise kept though to best of their intolerant little hearts.
I can't see success here, but they have kind of accomplished some things. They are so spiteful and incompetent I will be surprised if it can last. Their legal counsel is inept, their leaders are barely functional, and their agenda is anti-human. Not really a winning combination.
Unless you are benefitting from the pump and dump schemes this administration seems to love so much I don't think there is anything to like. Even their extremists are turning on them. They got a limited lifespan unless they can pull off something they seem incapable of.
He has virtually no support from Democrats while 9 in 10 Republicans back Trump.
Nothing has changed. The fascists still like fascism, they just wish eggs were a little cheaper.
I don’t want to live in the same country with these people.
Seriously, like, even once this is all said and done, I don't want to be lumped in with them. They've shown their true colors and they really clash with mine.
Except there are fewer people identifying as Republican than ever before so that statistic doesn't mean all that much. When people go from approving to disapproving of Trump they just leave the GOP because it's a cult that is extremely hostile to dissent, so the ratio of Republicans who approve of him stays high while his popularity with the general public continues to go down.
It's evangelicalism all over again. Having destroyed any plausible deniability that people are good despite, not because of, Christianity, their new goal is proving that every negative thing a socialist has ever had to say about American politics is, in fact, true.
Does anyone really think the US isn't a one-parfy authoritarian state at this point?
Don't count on an election.
I'm baffled that some people still seem to presume this will end with the next election
I cannot imagine being such a dimwit as to be one of the people just now waking up to this.
I mean....did these people really not see his first term? Did they really think that the only reason he failed in his first term was because of Covid?
"What do you mean? Covid happened under Biden, as did anything else bad that happened during Trump's presidency. "
Unironically have had to walk people through the timeline because they seriously believe covid entirely happened during Biden's term.
And for those that think you're joking. The showdy is often relevant.
I forgot about the O'Reily clip. Impressive levels of cognitive dissonance that people go through to justify their feelings on events. I'm still baffled that people can misremember basic timelines facts involved with one of the biggest disruptions of people's lifetimes that only had happened a few years ago. Realizing how fictional people's memories were about even recent major events made it a lot more understandable how people were so easily manipulated in to thinking a billionaire conartist was somehow going to try to help them this time.
The majority of my coworkers have casually stated the last week, "I don't agree with the way this is all happening.", but still overall support the agenda and hold their line. It's a combination of ignorance and stupidity. They're just fascists without even knowing. I live in a deep red area and from what I can gather when I hear talk out in the street, most people are either completely unaware or excited "they're taking America back." There is no convincing these people. I have tried for years and years, and when they seem to hear you and begin to digest what you've said, they come back the next day more sure than before that Facebook and Fox keep them informed. Many of them can't tell you what the three branches of government are or how many Senators there are or provide correct answers on the simplest of civics questions.
In addition to "going too far", he's also too far gone.
Does anyone think some hacker in thigh-high striped rocks is gonna take one for the team and leak the declassified Epstein Files?
Nobody will believe anything at this point no matter how it's releases. Tampering has made it all illegitimate as far as we know.
Some notes:
- Restoring safety to the United States (39% to 35% who said he made progress)
- Bringing law and order back to our cities (42% to 33%)
Speaks to the information bubble most MAGA/Conservatives live in. Right-wing media has been banging the "they're coming for you kids" drum for decades. According to them crime has always been terrible, and cities are the worst hellscapes for people to live. It ignores that statistics don't back this up at all, rural communities were/are-being devastated by opioids/fentanyl/meth, and actual per capita crime rates in big cities are generally lower than in smaller areas.
- Bringing back free speech to America (41% to 27%)
More right-wing media propaganda pushing the narrative that social media and the "main-stream media" (you know, as opposed to Fox News - the most watched news network in the US for over 20-years running) have been silencing conservative viewpoints. You know, viewpoints like:
So basically, social media is trying to point out bullshit, and conservatives are noticing that "bullshit" mostly covers shit they say. Not to say liberals don't also spout bullshit, but it doesn't tend to become planks in the national party's platform.
- Keeping our children safe, healthy and disease free (40% to 26%)
Not even touching this one. The safe part is covered above. Remember "Stranger Danger," anyone?
- Stopping the weaponization of the Justice Department (41% to 21%)
More right-wing propaganda. Same as the "free speech" bullshit above.
- Being a peacemaker and unifier (47% to 25%)
Ignoring that this man has never in his life given off either vibe, how does one expect to find any "unifier" candidate when the to predominant political arguments in the US are:
how does one expect to find any “unifier” candidate when the to predominant political arguments in the US are:
Conservatives are the ones that wore the "fuck your feelings" shirts.
They don't want a "unifier". They want revenge on everyone that ever made fun of them for saying and believing stupid shit. They want revenge on people smarter than them, more educated than them, and people with more expertise than them. And they love Donvict because they think he'll do it.
That poll primarily shows that a good third of the American public is still to dumb to understand what is happening.