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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 106 points 16 hours ago (9 children)

I cannot imagine being such a dimwit as to be one of the people just now waking up to this.

I mean....did these people really not see his first term? Did they really think that the only reason he failed in his first term was because of Covid?

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 49 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

"What do you mean? Covid happened under Biden, as did anything else bad that happened during Trump's presidency. "

Unironically have had to walk people through the timeline because they seriously believe covid entirely happened during Biden's term.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 16 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

And for those that think you're joking. The showdy is often relevant.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 9 points 10 hours ago

I forgot about the O'Reily clip. Impressive levels of cognitive dissonance that people go through to justify their feelings on events. I'm still baffled that people can misremember basic timelines facts involved with one of the biggest disruptions of people's lifetimes that only had happened a few years ago. Realizing how fictional people's memories were about even recent major events made it a lot more understandable how people were so easily manipulated in to thinking a billionaire conartist was somehow going to try to help them this time.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

No wonder the same bunch think Biden had "the worst economy", LOL. Cannot even recall basic recent history.

[–] santa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago

No no no!!! Covid happened under tan suit Obama. /s

[–] ImInLoveWithLife@lemmy.zip 30 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The majority of my coworkers have casually stated the last week, "I don't agree with the way this is all happening.", but still overall support the agenda and hold their line. It's a combination of ignorance and stupidity. They're just fascists without even knowing. I live in a deep red area and from what I can gather when I hear talk out in the street, most people are either completely unaware or excited "they're taking America back." There is no convincing these people. I have tried for years and years, and when they seem to hear you and begin to digest what you've said, they come back the next day more sure than before that Facebook and Fox keep them informed. Many of them can't tell you what the three branches of government are or how many Senators there are or provide correct answers on the simplest of civics questions.

[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 21 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It’s truly incomprehensible to most blue/libs that magas and conservatives are genuinely and permanently deranged cultists

They really believe it’s possible to use words and logic to convince them of things, hence the poster being confused why they aren’t convinced of anything

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Because our elected officials refuse to talk like this and many constantly stress how bipartisan they try to be with everything. Saying "about 35% of this country are raving psychopaths who can not be compromised with and must be disempowered" is not an easy feel good campaign message but it's what people need to hear.

[–] jason@discuss.online 5 points 11 hours ago

Anyone who says "reach across the isle" in the primary is an automatic no. These people are not interested in governing. They are openly hostile.

We enter parliament in order to supply ourselves, in the arsenal of democracy, with its own weapons. If democracy is so stupid as to give us free tickets and salaries for this bear's work, that is its affair. We do not come as friends, nor even as neutrals. We come as enemies. As the wolf bursts into the flock, so we come.

^ Maybe we should prevent this sort of thing, no?

[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago

Yeah it’s incredibly dangerous to simply ignore or pretend that these are rational people to negotiate with

They certainly aren’t negotiating with us so I’m not sure when these compromise is king types will realize this is a kill or be killed situation

[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 21 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

A majority of Americans polled in the survey -- 58% -- characterized Trump’s first year of his second term as a “failure,” according to the poll.

Just 42% of respondents said Trump’s second term has been a success.

Imagine how dim the 42% must be.

The 42% are locked on Fox News.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

21% of American adults are functionally illiterate. I wonder if that 42% has all of the 21%?

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 13 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

The majority of Americans have significant, legitimate material and social grievances that cause them real duress. Most are surrounded by a curated low-information media environment and society that reinforces punching down, zero sum in-out group thought, scapegoating, etc. And the only official political choice they're ever allowed is between two preselected corporate stooges.

I think we're the dimwits if we're confused as to why Trump has so much inertia.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The majority of Americans have significant, legitimate material and social grievances that cause them real duress.

And yet, most of the grievances that Trump bleats about are neither significant nor legitimate. "THEY'RE EATING THE DOGS AND CATS!!!"

Quit pretending those fools are reasonable and have anything behind their hatred besides stupidity.

And the only official political choice they’re ever allowed is between two preselected corporate stooges.

Go on, say that both sides are the same.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

At some point over the years these rage-blind takes stop being cathartic and start becoming an apologetic distraction from the institutions that prefigure our social issues in the first place.

[–] logos@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

zero sum in-out group thought

Curious what you mean by zero sum in this context.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

The conservative fallacy that the sum of all positives and negatives in the world is always zero, therefore good cannot be had by all and must always be had at someone else's expense.

[–] logos@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 hours ago

The old "I don't really win unless someone else loses."

Thanks.

[–] running_ragged@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago

Im in Canada and have friends who believed his second term would be mostly as feckless as his first.

They didn’t understand how project 2025 meant he was going to be coming out of the gate with someone else’s agenda with all of the key players, including scotus in his back pocket. It all lined up to mean shit was going to go down fast and hard.

Look where we are one year in. 3 more years to subvert or nullify the next election.

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The people who support Trump after even 2018 are literally so cognitively disabled, I would genuinely submit for consideration that those people are as true to NPCs as possible. 

Your average cockroach is more capable of self reflection and complex critical thinking than your average Trump supporter.

Bacertia is a better candidate for holding its own personal, and expansive personal thoughts than a Trump supporter.

ChatGPT is more capable of hallucinating genuine human empathy and emotional intelligence than a Trump supporter.

Cosmic background radiation is more grounded to Earth than a Trump supporter.

These people are simply stupid beyond repair and shouldn't be respected as equals in any capacity.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

i wonder if you are aware that you are brainwashing yourself

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The only people brainwashing themselves are those so fucking stupid they think people who've gleefully supported Nazism for over 10 years now don't explicitly and knowingly support autocracy and genocide.

Maybe stop coping and pretending these assholes can be redeemed in any way and aren anything but a hostile enemy that'd see you and everyone like you die, and are currently making big strides to seeing that through.

The left loses when we constantly shoot our own balls off and attempt empathy and understanding to these sadistic sociopaths who've only ever demonstrated doubling down in that direction.

So get with reality or sit down and shut the fuck up, because people like you hold all real progress back. Stop cucking yourself to Nazis.

[–] DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com 1 points 10 hours ago

What's your favorite Obama war?

[–] notwhoyouthink@lemmy.zip 6 points 15 hours ago

These voters have 4 year memory capacity, at best.

[–] LMurch@thelemmy.club 6 points 15 hours ago

The US was showing signs of a recession Sept 2019, 6 months before COVID really shut things down. Things weren't going to be great for us, covid or no covid.