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Being Trans Isn't Normal or Part of Nature...or is it...? (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by stiffyGlitch@lemmy.world to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world

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I'm not saying that all Catholics think this, but most do. also sorry if the seahorse is hard to see X---X

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[–] powerstruggle@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Male seahorse get pregnant, but that doesn't make them trans, they're unambiguously male. This is a great example of why sex is defined by gamete size. If it weren't, we couldn't talk about males and females in any useful way across the animal kingdom.

Clownfish would be a better example as they're sequential hermaphrodites, but that doesn't have any bearing on the human sex binary.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

*the non-existent human sex binary

[–] powerstruggle@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is often a point of confusion, but human sex is binary. There's edge cases that require clarification as to how they fit into the binary, but don't disprove it.

Human sexuality overall is complex and that's why we differentiate gender from sex. The sex binary and gender spectrum complement each other though, and don't clash.

If you're interested in learning more, here's some background reading:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonochorism

We fall into that category, where we have two body plans, each organized around producing either sperm or ova. Other species have more body plans, such as recognizably distinct males, females, and hermaphrodites:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trioecy

Those species are a good contrast. Humans don't have that variation, and so sex is binary in humans.

There's literature that explains this specifically in detail, though most of it doesn't really explicitly talk about it, much like math papers don't generally explain that integers can be added together.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (13 children)

There's edge cases that require clarification

Ok, yes. That's where I believe the binary is false.

You have red, you have blue, and then there's a bunch of egde cases. To me that's not the end of the story. I believe purple exists.

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[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Frogs and ducks enter the chat

[–] PizzaLamp25@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Clown Fish have entered the chat

[–] phaedrus@piefed.world 9 points 1 month ago

A whole new vibe to, "plenty of fish in the sea."

[–] stiffyGlitch@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

what

I was just looking up if ducks can turn trans and this popped up

[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

What the duck?!

[–] Siethron@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Who keeps their ducks in their prostate?

[–] lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Mine are stuck, can you help me 👉 👈

[–] Siethron@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 3 points 1 month ago

You're a good pal

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[–] mienshao@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah I think it’s ironic that out of all the animals that can change their sex, OP chose one that doesn’t lol.

[–] cattywampas@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Also animals being able to change sex does not make them trans. Being transgender has to do with gender identity and its relation to biological sex.

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[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago (8 children)

My biggest issue with this whole thing is just writing "POV" at the start.

Is this like the new generations communication habit? Some people can't stop putting lol at the end of a message, some people cant stop saying "so here's the thing" at the start of sentences. Are people just automatically writing POV at the start of memes now?

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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Isn't this confusing sex and gender?

[–] Karl@literature.cafe 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Never really understood those terms. Can someone explain in a simple way?

[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 12 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Sex is biology, gender is sociology.

Your biological sex is the physical manifestation. It involves your genitals and genes. That is why it is called a sex-change and not a gender-change.

Your gender is how society perceives you. It is a spectrum between masculine and feminine. And not a single person in this world is pure masculine or feminine, since it also differs between societies. Like wearing a skirt is seen in most places as something feminine, but go to Scotland and there it is masculine.

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago

Your gender is how society perceives you. It is a spectrum between masculine and feminine

Not quite. It's got nothing to do with how people perceive you. A closeted trans woman is still a woman, even though she's perceived as a man.

It's also not inherently defined by femininity or masculinity. You can be a masculine woman or a feminine man, or you can simply not give a shit about masculinity or femininity (this is me). Society defines what we consider masculine and feminine, and creates powerful associations between these behaviours and gender, but the association is "after the fact"

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

also sorry if the seahorse is hard to see

I am emotionally damaged and triggered from seeing this seahorse. It was a very hard thing for me to see.

[–] stiffyGlitch@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

x--x

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In case you wanted the explanation from a 1993 Nirvana T-shirt: “Ever the trendsetter, the sea horse is the sole animal known to man which the male of the species endures the privilege of childbirth. Following a length courtship, a male and female have intercourse during which the female enters the male and lays as many as 200 eggs which are fertilized within the body of the male. After a 5-week gestation period, the male gives birth.”

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Cobain rocked lol

[–] Shrubbery@piefed.social 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Catholics: Eating your young isn't normal or part of nature.

Nature: Looks like meat is back on the menu, boys!

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago

Okay looks like this one is the female because it has the babies! Oh wait I has a penis so this is the male. The other one is the female because it has the vagina. Oh but it can't have babies. Then this one is the male! And that one is the female because it has the babies. Oh but it has a penis.... Repeat.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think being true to yourself is being closer to God than most Christians are.

[–] stiffyGlitch@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

honestly

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Better example is ~~parrotfish~~ clownfish.

[–] Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

But returning from the dead is A-OK!

[–] b_tr3e@feddit.org 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

As long as you're the same gender, yes. And didn't touch you dead wiener, of course.

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[–] basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 month ago

on this planet, with this mankind? dunno

[–] cattywampas@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'm no longer religious, but Catholics are on the chiller side of the Christian spectrum.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Chill? They're the more rigorous side for certain but chill feels like an exaggeration. That said, I'm ex catholic and have complicated feelings about them.

[–] cattywampas@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Catholic dogma may be relatively strict, I'm not sure, I haven't extensively studied other sects of Christianity. But Catholic people are, in my experience, pretty chill. If anything they're a much more "love the sinner, hate the sin" kind of bunch. It's the evangelicals you gotta watch out for.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 4 points 1 month ago

Episcopalians, which is basically Catholicism-lite, are even more chill. They were the first to allow gay people to be reverends.

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[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 month ago

Don’t Catholics subscribe to the doctrine of TRANSubstantiation?

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Oh hey, I was going to be pedantic but apparently seahorses are also sequential hermaphrodites

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Conservatives saying shit like "nature intended monogamous relationships between men and women, and it is against nature to change your gender" while fucking nature is queer AS fuck. Clown fish will always end up turning into females in the course of their lives (if they dont get eaten before), male seahorses get pregnant and shimpanzes solve all of their problems with sex.

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