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What should I NOT do in front of rich people?

Diminish yourself or your self worth

Women face inequality across society.

Men only groups foster and grow that inequality.

Women only groups give women a chance to get away from the bullshit at least sometimes.

If and when we solve inequality, then we can come back and talk about whether gendered groups still have a place.

You know trans people exist right?

edit: although it seems to be due to me using blorp rather than eg. Lemmy UI

Yep, that's what I was saying. You need to use the default lemmy UI, or a client/front end that supports community creation, though I can't tell you which front ends and clients do support it.

mlmym (no longer seems to work)

Ah thanks. No one has reported that yet, and Kaity and I don't use it, so I wasn't aware it was having issues. We'll get it back up and running

Dawkins has been openly racist and islamophobic (not simply "outspoken atheist", but explicitly islamophobic) for a very long time now. Being transphobic is part of that package :\

tbh, I didn't get that far. It could be legit. It just didn't sound legit, and I didn't see a person in the first little bit I watched, so I turned it off before giving it much of a go. When combined with the clickbait headline, I just felt like I wasn't going to get much out of it

I clicked, it sounded like an AI generated voice. I turned it off

That's what dual booting is for!

Here's what the science actually says https://whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-the-well-being-of-transgender-people/

What these people say? It's not science. It's bias, wearing a veneer of science, so that people who don't like the idea of trans kids existing can point at something other than their own internal discomfort.

So, there are quite a few flaws with your position.

Firstly, for some reason, you're putting the lens on trans people, and not cis people. Cis society does far more to encourage and sustain gender norms than trans people ever will, simply because there are so many more cis people. If you are genuinely concerned about the harms of gendered roles and how they sustain gender inequality, you should be more worried about the source of those behaviours, and not trans people.

Secondly, if your concerns are about the harms of gender norms, then you should probably acknowledge that trans people are more harshly judged and punished by those norms than cis people are. Trans people have their gender denied to them if they don't perform their gender sufficiently for society. They get misgendered, they get their rights taken away, they get denied access to bathrooms. And to top it off, trans people are also punished for performing their gender roles, and that punishment, again, often takes the form of denying trans people their identity. "If you were really a woman, you wouldn't need to act so feminine to show it"

Thirdly, the premise that "transitioned people are doing their best to fulfill the roles and stereotypes assigned to their desired gender" is incorrect. Or rather, it's as correct and incorrect as it is about cis people. Some trans people adhere to gender norms. Some don't. But again, the difference is, trans people get punished more often and more strongly by those norms, whichever side of the fence they fall on. Your post here is an example of that imbalance, because you are blaming some of the biggest targets of societal inequality for that inequality, despite their complete lack of power and influence

There is no "two sides" here. Enforced gender norms hurt everyone, but they impact trans people more. The idea that there is "two sides" is an example of that. Blaming the victims for their own mistreatment

Like it or not, the distinction is meaningless to people outside of the US

I went on a research deep dive.

I found this https://xgoreghoulx.newgrounds.com/, a video series called House of Puso.