Chapotraphouse

you asked for the party line but imma give own anecdotes since ive been there muhaahahahaha

• there's practically no homelessness. the lack of abject poverty also means there isn't much petty crime.
• healthcare is dirt cheap and super efficient (i got kidney stones and pneumonia when i was there and i just walked into a hospital and got world class care pretty much immediately)
• the public transit is probably the best in the entire world
• the cities are really clean, well planned, and full of trees. residential blocks instead of urban sprawl ensure the cities don't have to take up a lot space while still being able to house large populations. so, more space for nature. shenzhen has a reputation for being a cyperpunk city cuz of how it looks at night, but it actually sits in the middle of a big mangrove forest, and the city itself is covered in greenery.
• the social scene is very vibrant because capitalism didn't get to destroy third places like it did in crackerland. muh private property isn't taken very seriously so you can hang out pretty much anywhere, streets prioritize humans and bikes over cars (drivers have to go pretty slow in a lot of places 'cause of all the street markets and stuff).
• all the cities have bike lanes and there are probably more people on electric scooters than cars (which are also almost entirely electric)

there's a lot more to talk about but this is already getting pretty long, so yeah china is pretty cool

80% good 20% bad

The PRC is the most important anti-imperialist force on earth simply for the fact that it is so huge and advanced that it has restructured the world economy away from the US. It will not save the world from capitalism, but it will give the rest of the world far more opportunities to save itself from capitalism.

I want to hear more about China from people who live and breather there. Especially the proletarian in China. I wanna see their perspective.

As for my personal opinion, it's a mixed bag, they do some things very good like how they actually managed to lift people out of poverty and transform their cities in such a short span of time and other things make me worried, like the amount of liberalism and social conservatism that's allowed to exist within the country. There seems to be no interest stopping that either, not anytime soon.

But tbh idk I also think I'm wasting my time over here sometimes. People seem to either want to praise China mostly or they're harsh critiques. Presenting a more human picture seems to be unfavorable or maybe it's just my imagination? Or maybe it's the fact that this is just a place for shitposting and it was my mistake believing anyone here actually desires to make a positive impact on the world.

China is a fine, white, refined type of ceramic that has practical as well as decorative use.

Empire doesn't need you to love it, only to hate its enemies. Therefore one must not hate the enemies of the west

Critical Support.

By all means criticise individual policies of China, be disappointed in political directions, even say that they've backslid into capitalist-roadism,

Just research stuff properly, preferably using sources inside China (you'd be surprised at the diversity of thought even inside Party publications, Xi gets a lot of flak.)

But overall, assume the CPC, whatever its flaws, is mostly comprised of comrades arguing in good faith. If you do that the entire tone of a critique changes from "China Bad" to, "This is how China can do better, and more importantly, illustrate some dangers and tactics we ourselves might consider in our own political actions"

China good. But they need to improve on queer rights.

One of the world's most successful social democracies. Weird foreign policy where they often back both sides of conflicts or just the imperialist. Takes the middle road on the issue of cars vs. trains and does both well. Weird techno dystopia where everything is hooked up to the internet of things.

Hexbear is not a party, there is no line. I personally support the PRC and view it as the presently most developed socialist country, though imperfect. Public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy, the state is run by the proletariat, and they are steadily focusing on building up higher levels of socialism. Their contributions to undermining imperialism and unequal exchange are among the most impactful in the world today. Others are more negative or positive, with some believing them to not be socialist at all (to which I disagree). To begin with, Hexbear is a left-unity instance, if you want something with a "line," Lemmygrad.ml is ML and upholds the PRC as well as Xi Jinping Thought.

There is no party line. Hexbear is an online platform for posting pictures of a pig with shit on its testicles.
The general consensus seems to be that China is cool and good. Some users are disappointed China is not doing more. Other users, like @xiaohongshu@hexbear.net, are worried about the economics of the country as well as the liberal cliques within it.
@jack@hexbear.net Made a post 4 years ago about china (easy to find if you sort by controversial, since we no longer have downvotes) and back then vibes were different.

The biggest thing people agree on now is that there is no Uyghur genocide and Tiananmen was basically a US psyop

China is a big country, inhabited by many Chinese.

Oh, you like China? Name every Chinese. Checkmate tankie

China has the best chances as of right now of challenging western imperialism and winning, and isn't imperialist itself.

A lot of people on this site using large amounts of hopium to imagine socialism is being built despite evidence pointing towards the capitalist roaders taking control of the country after Mao. Now we have people trying to pretend 5D chess is being played by the Politburo while they continue to abandon any proletarian internationalism, see for example their continued business with the Zionist Entity as one of its largest trading partners and that UN Security Council vote on the US "peace" plan that they abstained from rather than vetoing.

Also, we're supposed to believe that they'll transition to a more socialist economy in a few decades time because productive forces need to be built up. Somehow socialism was viable as a revolutionary force in the early 20th century, but now the largest economy on the planet, whose productive capacity easily outstrips the whole world pre-World War I and whose current population is 75% of the world population in 1914, somehow needs a few more decades of a mega-sized New Economic Policy before more expansive socialization of production. (I will remind people that capitalist states can also take control of the commanding heights of production in order to help keep their economy going, such as the nationalisations done in Britain after World War II.) Chances are China will have a lot of internal conflict if another sizeable part of the world has a revolution and is socialising production faster than them because it undermines the capitalist roaders' excuses.

Ultimately, imo, people waste their time here too often putting hope into China to bring about socialism. Do try to get to know fellow proles in other parts of the world including China, but you should spend much more time focusing on trying to organize where you are. The best thing to advocate regarding China is a policy of non-antagonism: everything I've written does not mean America & allies should be confrontational with them.

They have some nice trains

Revisionists who have a net-positive influence on the world because they are deliberately facilitating the development of advanced capitalism in countries that were systematically undermined by imperialism, and theoretically that should make socialism much more practically viable, because the mode of production is necessarily constrained by the means of production, and of course the social reality of capitalist production makes organizing somewhat easier as things are more collective (in terms of the production itself, not ownership, of course) and more centralized.

even though it has problems it sure would be nice to live in a place where things were steadily getting better and it seems like the basic necessities were all being handled.

Party Rockin’ Comrades

i'd like to go to chongqing but it seems super intimidating, so china needs to make it easier for me to visit chongqing until that the PRC has failed

They got a lot of pretty mountains

Let him cook.

I think Dumplings are really good !!