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That's fine. I'll ask my wife and her friends, a mix of NPs, PAs, and RNs, if they recognize the current administration as professional.
Answer will be no and they can kick rocks.
This is also clearly be design to cut peoples access to education as well as reduce the total number of healthcare workers. A double whammy.
It's also targeting fields that are usually a majority of women on top of the access.
There are also a huge number of minorities and immigrants, especially if you're including CNAs.
My partner is a nurse here in the Northeast. Unfortunately a lot of her coworkers are Trumpies.
Most of them are practically disengaged from politics and only follow their (male) partner's political beliefs. If they're from one of the surrounding rural (white and low income) areas, the chances they're like this are higher. Not shockingly, a fair amount of their partners are cops.
It's strange and disheartening to hear about nurses she works with who flaunt that they won't get the covid vaccine, who denigrate patients with substance abuse disorder, who verbalize that they would rather not treat a trans person, and who treat black and brown folks like a different species. But it's definitely a trend in nursing culture up here.
Its especially difficult for my partner who chose this path in large part because of her acute sense of empathy. The state of healthcare is just bad here.
slams buzzer ER nurse.
No no, see, they're part of the demographic that's predestined for success because this is their country, so it'll all work out for them, no matter how many things this administration does to strip them of their title, success, income, benefits, rights, and dignity.
Nurse Practitioners, Pennsylvanias, and Registered Nurses? 🤔
Fellas, is it good when I stop funding nursing education in the middle of a nurse shortage
They want us to die. Nothing they've demonstrated has shown anything but a deep, willful satisfaction in making American citizens suffer and a desire to kill off anyone who isn't a member of the administration.
I hope you dipshit Lemmy leftist kids are prepared to actually work to vote people out in the coming midterms and following 2028 election, and not get lost down some third-party fantasy or hold tight for "the revolution" to start.
They want to reduce the needed learning so they can pay people less to do the same job but pass it off as some streamlining process to address shortages. They're still going to charge the same for care but pay less to those who provide it.
Taking an actual problem and looking to address it from a capitalist view point so that line always goes up.
Is it good when i, a crumbling octogenarian vote away all the systems keeping me tethered to this mortal form?
It’s an attack on women. Nursing has historically been one of the only accepted paths for women to make a living wage. It’s an equivalent wage to the construction or police profession that is typically male dominated. I expect to see a lot of attacks on women’s ability to be self sufficient in the coming years. Subjugation and forced birth is the goal.
“The department determined that the following programs were professional: medicine, pharmacy, dentistry, optometry, law, veterinary medicine, osteopathic medicine, podiatry, chiropractic, theology and clinical psychology. This meant that physician assistants, nurse practitioners, physical therapists and audiologist were excluded from the list.”
Theology and clinical psychology? I didn’t even know that was a career choice, let alone one I could take out a $200,000 loan for.
lol chiropractor and theology are professionals.
Quacklifications by a quack administration
Clinical psychologists are PhD level therapists and are very good at what they do generally
I think they were pointing out the lack of an Oxford comma, which makes "theology and clinical psychology" seem like one thing instead of two.
Oh you right, my b
So my eyes, feet, and soul need professional care, but not my ears? Wild.
biggest employer in many states btw, it's like they want the economy to crash
they do. they want to rule the ashes.
...Here we may reign secure, and in my choice
To reign is worth ambition though in hell:
Better to reign in hell, than serve in heaven.
Lucifer: Paradise Lost
Step one: Get into power Step two: Crash the economy Step Three: buy up every on the cheap whike destroying welfare and anything you want rid of. Step four: Monopolies for the rich, corporoticracy for everyone else.
Well you're welcome in Canada where you're still considered an essential service, which absolutely has "professional" all over it.
When the MAGA shit stains visit the ER, I hope the first nurse they see is a full blown liberal.
Why do you want them to have qualified care?
No give them a MAGA nurse, and tell the nurse it's a liberal, and let them eat each other.
They gonna get saline instead of actual meds. Patient is gonna hobble out cause the lib nurse is gonna poison them with covid boosters and Tylenol.
I want to stop being surprised but I can't imagine the sheer depth of inhumanity and monstrosity of these people, and I am someone who grew up with a lifelong hatred of Nazis and their mythic-levels of cruelty.
I feel like this is related to H1B visas. The Trump admin wants to ban them and one barrier I think was most of our nurses for hospice etc are immigrants (I'm filipino, this is known), so banning H1Bs would impact nursing. This may be their way of banning H1Bs while keeping the nurses around. Unsure of how nursing relates to the H1B program, I'm a software engineer my experience with it is from coworkers having the visas.
I hope he gets a nurse with a fake degree the next time they have to rush his fat ass to Walter Reed.
Actually not sure how I feel about that. They simply classified it for the same caps on student loans as the rest of us, rather than the higher one for roles like doctors.
Both caps are bad, for all of us. Our college education rates are already far too low, and now we’re trying to make college more unaffordable?
But I guess I assumed a nurse’s education was similar to a four year degree, although I don’t know. Is it not? The nurse they quoted claimed 15 years of college: surely that can’t be normal. Isn’t that more than doctors get?
There’s a difference between an LPN, an RN, etc. Some nurses do have doctorates, which yeah, might be about the same amount of education that a doctor typically gets.
There’s a perception that nurses are “lesser” than doctors - but nursing is fundamentally a different skill set.
So it's better than that now right? Right??
This is misgovernance in the extreme, but the following is not the best quote to support that point, emphasis mine:
One nurse posted through the IVs By The Seas TikTok account, a clinic offering mobile IV hydration and aesthetic services in New Jersey: "10 years of schooling... $210k in student loan debt... 15 years of ER and Trauma experience which included preventing physicians from making error at 3 a.m. and now... my degree isn't considered a professional degree. Cool."
It’s cool that they have a nurse doing that, but hangover cures and spa treatments don’t seem like a great use for those ten years of schooling (now, the ER and trauma experience is obviously valuable). No shade to her, and I completely understand that an entire career working as an ER and trauma nurse would be demoralizing, but this is a perfect snippet for people who support rolling reimbursement back to quote to show that it’s not really needed.
Sure let's cut back the amount of available nurses to an already struggling count of nurses why not. May as well just say "don't be a nurse, we don't value it." Getting the same treatment as teachers now it seems like.
Don't fuck with the nurses, bro.
Time to move to Canada!
