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[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 48 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I just phoned a business today that ended up with an "AI receptionist" when they didn't answer the phone.

They wanted to take my name down, asked who I was leaving a message for, and then recorded the message...

My god what a painful process that was. It was absolutely useless. Firstly it got my name wrong, and then the name of the person I was leaving the message for wrong. No "Janet" my name is not Don it's John, and no I'm not leaving a message for Kim Its for Kam. And then it needs to repeat your entire message back to you in order to make sure it didn't fuck it up which amazingly the message was probably 95% okay but it was a giant waste of my time when a FUCKIN VOICEMAIL WOULD HAVE SUFFICED

[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Had an issue with Comcast today. They forced me to use their Xfinity app, but what I needed to do wasn't an apparent option within the app. The only option I saw was a support chatbot. The chatbot listed a link to the option I was looking for. The link opened a webview within the Xfinity app, in which there was a link to download the Xfinity app.

Unnecessary Apps and chat bots. Two of my least favorite things referring me back and forth, forever, in an endless loop.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

comcast is probably the worst cs, plus they always trying to pedal you shit.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 3 points 6 days ago

Peddle but yes, they're monsters

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 days ago

referring me back and forth, forever, in an endless loop

Just like they intended.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 8 points 6 days ago

an online store, for games used a fully AI agent as a CS, it was giving them the run around, till i kept asking about escalting it, finally it was able to either contact them shortly or through email.

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[–] frustrated@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago

Well yeah. Sam Altman just came out and basically said he needs a few trillion dollars and government backed loans. This shit is going to be BAD.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yay, yet another once in a lifetime financial crisis.

Capitalism is the only way ;)

[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is in a category I'd like to call hopebait. People so badly wish things they feel are bad simply stopped themselves, that they'll upvote anything that appears to confirm this.

In this instance, there is nothing of substance in this article to suggest the end of anything is anywhere near in sight.

One guy, who makes bets constantly, made another bet.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 16 points 6 days ago

Seriously the stock market can remain irrational longer than you can stay solvent.

People are idiots.

Is there a consensus there's an AI bubble? Sure?

Can anyone predict what will happen? LOfuckingL

[–] bignate31@lemmy.world 32 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I've got a problem with articles like this: "The guy who got it right once is betting a second time he's going to get it right". and then the article continues: "Even though he's got it wrong a bunch of times since, he got it right that one time... So this has gotta be his second time!!"

[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

The odds of being right x times in a row must be really low, correct?

[–] kljafgg9r0@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago (4 children)

What does his height have to do with anything? Are we body shaming?

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[–] OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

Has anyone else noticed the recent resurgence of mechanical turk jobs? It's all AI training work. Before the work was doing tasks directly. Now they have people training tailored AI models.

In other words the tech bros have found get another way to shoehorn themselves in as a middle man. Instead of having workers do the work itself. Now the work is delegated to AI. Which is trained to do the task by humans.

At first it said the LLM era was the end of mechanical turk work. It's going in a circle back to mechanical turks again.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 24 points 6 days ago (5 children)

My money is on the American bubble popping. China would do just fine. As to Europe's? Probably not developed enough to seriously impact them, but probably able to fill America's void once the bubble action has died down. America is pretty fucked in general, so it isn't so much AI in particular, but rather a ghost economy.

Something based on imaginary stocks, grift, de-industrialization, ghost jobs and falsified labor statistics, likely mixed with a debased dollar, just doesn't bode well.

[–] Muffi@programming.dev 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Most of the European digital infrastructure is caught in the web of Microsoft, and will be pulled down with it when Microsoft inevitably lose their bets on AI.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Pulled down how? They will just keep using office or azure or whatever. No changes.

Seems to me that the Microsoft stock may drop 20% but otherwise, what consequences will it really have on European markets?

[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 4 points 6 days ago

Europe should focus mlre on using mivrosoft, google and amazon (european) alternatives

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Something based on imaginary stocks, grift, de-industrialization, ghost jobs and falsified labor statistics, likely mixed with a debased dollar, just doesn’t bode well.

This is literally describes China, what are you even talking about?

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[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

There's an AI bubble?

I was pretty certain it was grifts all the way down lol

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

This is the most accurate take I have yet seen.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago

I'm thankfully OoL enough but I guarantee there are some AI backed crypto out there which is so deliciously awesome given the double down on smoke and mirrors.

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[–] duplexsystem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I do think there is an AI bubble, but "guy who bets against things, bets against the latest thing"

[–] bampop@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (3 children)

It's like the dotcom bubble. Everyone got all excited thinking the internet would be the next big thing, change the world, revolutionize the way we do business. And it did. But not without a lot of hot air and snake oil getting sold along the way.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

If he needs a straight pin to pop it I can send him a couple

Now I most definitely don't want it to pop 🤣 moreso because the reality is the bubble popping doesn't hurt them it only hurts all the idiots who spent their meager earnings on this shit.

The rich never suffer, other than having to buy the smaller yacht.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A billion dollar bet against a trillion dollar bubble. Cute.

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[–] ImmersiveMatthew@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It is a gamble for sure against innovation and a blind one too. I say this as it is clear right now that scaling up LLMs while very effective at substantially improving many AI metrics, it really did not have much impact on logic. I have been calling this the Cognitive Gap and it is really holding back AI.

Clearly the big LLM companies do not have a solution to this gap despite efforts like the reasoning models and that likely means we need an entirely different tech to front end LLMs or replace them.

This begs the question…who has a line of sight on how to scale up logic and the answer as near as I can tell is no one right now. Maybe there is something in a lab somewhere, or even with just a small team or individual, but it is not presently visible. It could come out any day now and make all those Data Center investments worthwhile or may take years before we see the Cognitive Gap close which will really make those same Data Centers completely out of alignment with the value they bring.

Shorting the AI industry is a roll of the dice, but less so than the blind investments still happening in Data Centres despite no clear path to improve logic and close the Cognitive Gap. In fact shorting seems like the safer bet.

Going to be interesting as if the Cognative Gap is not closed for years to come, those Data Center investments are never going to pay off as the value will just not be there. The entire USA economy is tied to AI it seems right now so the roll of the dice is perhaps the biggest risk / reward in history.

[–] unit327@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

And even if they solve some problems with AI and make them smarter, they still have to solve the "actually making a profit" problem to justify these share prices. LLMs already have some use at their current level, but certainly not for the price they'd need to charge to break even, let alone actually making a profit. If they double the smarts but double the training and/or inference cost, they'll still end up in the same place.

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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago

Now if it never pops at least it's funny that he lost a bunch of money

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