Chapotraphouse

okay I earned this one

"breaks silence" what the hell is a mayor talking about foreign countries for?

At this pace, we are about two weeks away from "Israel has a right to defend itself"

you mean to tell me the guy who issued a personal apology to the NYPD for having called them racist once is a massive lib?

Cuba and Venezuela are both legitimately more democratic than the USA.

Reason I hoped he might be different: looking at whom he upset (Zionists, landlords.

I thought surely someone who manages to get close to a correct stance on Palestine despite how overwhelming the propaganda is can see clearly and has his head screwed on straight when it comes to other countries.

I need a better litmus test and more and more it looks like that litmus test has to be: will they call themselves the C word and refuse to demonize any of the US's official enemies?

following Sanders position that Hugo Chavez was just another Communist dictator, just another Amerikkkan SucDem.

edit: I haven't followed this guy much (because I already got the feeling early that he was just another Sanders/AOC), he's DSA right? This is the same DSA that once sent a delegation to Cuba and instead of meeting the Cuban government and showing solidarity, they lectured Cuba about "DEMOCCRAACCCYYY". DSA sucks ass.

I’ve worked with him for years both in DSA and on his campaigns and these topics have come up before, so it’s extra disappointing knowing that he doesn’t even personally believe this or the liberal Zionist shit he said about Palestine.

Like you just don’t have to answer those questions dawg, and they’ll have no relevance to you as a local politician (albeit a prominent one). Yeah, it’s the optics and the getting elected (which I still think would be an objectively a good thing) but why poison your project’s well when there are such easy ways to answer that by calling into question the American narrative? You are going to be attacked as a socialist no matter what you say man

I genuinely believe Tucker fucking Carlson would actually give a better answer that this. It's honestly mind numbing how leftists are just immune to learning from the right with regards to rhetoric. You know what Nick Fuentes says when they ask him about Hitler? "Uhmmm, he had some good ideas, but did you know Stalin and Mao killed a gazillion people, and are actually worse than him. Funny how the jew controlled mainstream media never talks about this smh."

Like, JUST DEFLECT THE QUESTION AND POINT TO AMERICAN CRIMES IN THE REGION. And unlike nazis, you would actually be correct in doing so, because they're literally the cause of the situation anyway!

Wow that's crazy. If only there was a long historical record of socdems using revolutionary language and aesthetics only to get into power and further reinforce capitalism. Since there isn't, I don't blame anyone who is shocked.

Another stupid unforced error to appeal to people that had already made up their mind about him. New York City simply cannot have a meaningful number of Latinos who are so terrified by the spirit of Che Guevara that they demand this ridiculous purity test of their candidates, sincerely. I sort of doubt he personally believes this, but it's still a sign that he can't be ideologically strong on matters of u.s. jingoism, or can't realize the benefit of continuing to shut the fuck up.

in cuba you’re allowed to immediately vote any elected representative out who isnt serving their constituents.

in the US representatives arent even expected to serve their constituents. they’re just expected to make their donors happy and then the constituents who bare the brunt of this defend the representative with “at least its not a guy from the other party who has the same donors and would be doing the exact same stuff!!”

his succdem tendencies are no surprise, tho im not really sure what the point of being this much of a rube are. who are you expecting to win over? i dont think your average lib is all that invested in whether or not cuba or venezuela are dictatorships and his more left wing constituents dont wanna hear that bs. the only people that care about this are pundits who want a cheap gotcha, so why entertain them? if they ask what you think about those places, if you think supporting them is politically detrimental(which i dont believe it is personally) just say you’re getting elected to represent cuban and venezuelan new yorkers, not cubans and venezuelans in their respective home countries.

globalize the cringtifada

Following on from my previous comment in the other thread about this, I can now confirm this has miraculously not worsened DSA's standing with our allies in Cuba, whom our delegation is meeting in two weeks.

All glory to my comrades in DSA's international working group, and all glory to me as I once again morph into an NYC DSA hater I mean seriously the fuck are y'all doing just shut the fuck up

Whhhhy would he even answer questions like this. He's running for mayor, seems like you could dismiss questions like this as irrelevant

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Let’s be realistic about Mamdani here, because a lot of people expressed their disappointment in him lately:

At this stage in his campaign, he must have realized that if elected, he will be facing a State government and legislature where the establishment Democrats have every incentives to see him fail.

He will be dealing with a hostile Federal government who can threaten to pull millions and millions of funding and grants on a whim.

He will have to face off a fascist police force, the most militarized in the world, who will be eager to send “warnings” to his family, friends and supporters about their safety.

He must have realized that he will be dealing with the business leaders, the landlord tycoons, the Wall Street bankers, the criminal underworld - all of whom have formed such deep corruption networks with the municipal bureaucracy that all of them are eyeing him as a fresh piece of meat, ready to be squeezed dry, ready to be beaten and tortured into submission.

I would not even be surprised that at this point, his campaign must have received “invitation letters” by many such groups hinting at what role he’s going to have to assume, or else the consequences and the obstructions he will be facing as a mayor.

He has to balance all these forces while keeping the city running. He has to make sure the public services are not disrupted, the public transportations will continue to run, the welfare programs can be adequately financed, the school system will have ample resources, and so on and so forth.

I believe Mamdani is an idealist. He was outraged by the injustices in the world. He wants to change the system. He still believes in democracy. He’s a socialist who probably likes based communist memes on the internet.

But at this point of the campaign, he must have realized that he’s alone in this. He may have supporters and volunteers, but how many of them are willing to take a bullet for him? How many of them are willing to rally behind him to fight the capitalist class to the end? How many of them are ideologically committed enough to sacrifice their own lives to fight for his cause?

Although he’s supported by the DSA, I strongly strongly doubt the DSA has vast infiltration network into the key municipal posts that could deliver Mamdani the results he will need as a mayor. If he does not have the control of the municipal administrative branches, he’s going to be blackmailed by them, or shall we say, the vested interests behind them.

In a way, I feel bad for him. For he has no idea the sick and the twisted of the monstrosity of a system he will be caught into. It must have dawned upon him that he will be facing - alone - a monstrosity that can no longer be reformed. A system that has rotten to the core. A system that has no redeeming value but to be torn down.

But maybe if he plays his role as intended, if he plays his cards right, if he pleases the right people, he could somehow succeed in making some incremental gains, a little bit of progress. That, in his mind, wouldn’t be a bad outcome at all. Perhaps.

Fucking social democrats. They sucked in Lenin's time and they suck even worse now. He was right about them.

yeah there goes my last lingering benefit of the doubt completely unforced error

join a revolutionary org if you can, and/or do your part to rebuild direct institutions of working class power (both in tandem would obviously be ideal!)

the answer to what our class has to do is hard and scary and a long road, but it hasn't changed and this dem entryism fantasy really needs to be put to bed.

Well... Why are people surprised at all? What is to be expected from a SucDem authorized by US Gov?

there goes our third tier influences on his campaign