it was a debate
chapotraphouse
Banned? DM Wmill to appeal.
No anti-nautilism posts. See: Eco-fascism Primer
Slop posts go in c/slop. Don't post low-hanging fruit here.
Ad hominem wins again.
Ad homicide
pedantry
also it's only the ad hominem fallacy if you say they're wrong because of whatever insult you're making. a simple insult or "you're wrong and a poopy head" isn't a fallacy at all.
Fallacies are premised on being wrong? In the writing/speaking classes I've taken, they're taught as stereotypes to avoid because you cheapen whatever argument you're making or things to identify in someone else's rhetoric as emotional manipulation.
informal logical fallacies is the general idea. the thing in particular that makes an ad hominem fallacy fallacious is that you're making a logical leap form "tim is a doodoo head" to "tim's argument is invalid". or the reverse for appeal to authority, the leap is from somebody being your boss or a celebrity to them being correct or trustworthy, and it's (platonically, there are quacks and frauds of course) not fallacious to take medical advice from a doctor.
Say Tim is a fascist. The argument is wrong because he's a fascist and I can recognise that at a larger ontological level. My response is "Tim, you're a doodoo head and I'm not going to bother with you." Is that still fallacious in that I'm making a leap from a logos argument to a pathos one which shuts down the entire debate for the purpose of attacking him? To me it's fallacious even if I'm right because I'm going against the spirit of jerking each other off in a debate where two mutually-exclusive ideas are valid. I just embrace the fallacy because dada.
The argument is wrong because he's a fascist
gonna stop here, the argument isn't wrong because he's ideologically a fascist. the argument is wrong because of whatever lie he's telling.
anyway calling fash a shithead and not engaging isn't an error of logic in any way, it's just good sense in a situation where you can't punch or shoot him.
Fallacies cheapen arguments by being wrong/illogical, of course it only actually matters to debate perverts which is why politicians love fallacies
But wrong and illogical aren't the same thing. I'm making a pathos argument when I say "Whatever your opinion was, you're stupid and I'm not going to pretend you're a serious person" because I want bystanders to pile on. It certainly isn't a logos response to whatever they said because they're a donkey-ass individual. I can be right though if they're saying something wrong and I'm not entertaining it. That's still a fallacy to me, they just aren't worth more than the laziest response I can give that hurts them.
ah but it's fun to out-pervert the perverts because most of them don't know what they're talking about
Ad sanguinem
This is one of the most convincing rethorical forms, to be honest.
I know I’m laughing, funniest shit I’ve seen in a while!
It was genuine collective catharsis. I learned about it within a few minutes while on lunch and went inside to tell my coworker, first doing the happy dance. There were six of us gathered around and everyone was giddy once they learned who he is. I warned them, as someone who has worked in emergency medicine, that the video is particularly brutal and they might not want to see it. They watched it with the enthusiasm of a cute cat video. One gave me their number so that they could text the video to their partner. She kept saying "he was gushing" in such a happy voice while the rest of us were relieved that we wouldn't have to protest him in person when he comes to Colorado.
I haven't seen such spontaneous joy in a while. Coworkers I've never really spoken to were my genuine friends in that moment. It was beautiful.
Cathartic is a really good word for it and with him talking garbage about trans mass shootings the timing really was just
The "PROVE ME WRONG" banner is what gets me. I've waited like ten years for someone to prove him wrong by punching him. Him crying on the floor after a teenager knocks him out would be career-ending beyond Dave Rubin. The fucking poetry of using a gun on someone whose whole grift is enabling mass shootings, under that banner, is one of the funniest things I've ever seen. It's like the ultraviolet version of irony.
I didn’t even notice the banner!!! Damn if this was in a story it’d be too unbelievable how poetic it all came together
While downplaying mass shootings.
If I were religious I would probably believe this was divine punishment for his pride
The cathartic artery
My lib ass uncle said the next Trump shooter needs to “watch and learn”. Despite the consensus manufacturing by NYT and co that the entire country is in mourning, I think the amount of people who are genuinely happy about this is far higher than what everyone seems to think.
We're gonna have to get Grok to sit down before the next update, this one's gonna hit hard.
I don't know how this is related to claims of white genocide in South Africa, though.
Even if it isn't South Africans in this instance, I feel it's my moral obligation to support it.
thanks grok, editing holes into fascists is a very epic meme
oh god, we're gonna have to teach grok what death is
Wasn't this a subplot in Short Circuit
johnny 5 is not alive?
PhD in every single subject.
lmao
Kirk's life insurance company is really happy with Grokkk's answer right now.
Hey, Memelord Elon, have you seen the latest thing that really gets people laughing?
It was a social experiment folks.
Epic meme edit
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the ai chickens have come home to roost
Dark woke grok
It was just a prank, bro.